Other State Mall Shooter gets house arrest and can go back to work

[JO JO]

South Carolina mall shooting suspect's bond set at $25,000, can go to work with ankle monitor

A South Carolina judge set a $25,000 bond for a suspect in a mall shooting on Saturday that left 14 people injured, according to the Columbia Police Department.

www.foxnews.com

unbelievable

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[nwslopoke]

He shot in self defense so there should not have been a bond. If he shot innocent people he needs to be charged. Can you be held on a bond and not charged?

 

[ma96782]

Asking for a friend.
Is the tactic of spray and pray a justifiable defense when shooting in "self defense"?

Aloha, Mark

PS....yeah that injured 73 year old lady was probably a "gang member" in disguise.

Suspect in South Carolina mall shooting given $25,000 bond

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A 22-year-old man arrested after Saturday’s shooting that injured 14 people at a busy shopping mall in South Carolina’s capital was given a $25,000 bond on Sunday. Jewayne M. Price was one of three people initially detained by law enforcement as a person of interest after...

news.yahoo.com

And YES.....the presumption of innocence until proven guilty still applies.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Asking for a friend.
Is the tactic of spray and pray a justifiable defense when shooting in "self defense"?

Aloha, Mark

Why not? Cops do it all the time

 

[ma96782]

Post : #4

Only when the Dept is complicit in not establishing "REAL STANDARDS".

Aloha, Mark

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Post : #4

Only when the Dept is complicit in not establishing "REAL STANDARDS".

Aloha, Mark

Oh so like . . .

Police stray bullet kills teen in LA store's dressing room

The teenager was in a changing room with her mother trying on dresses for her 15th birthday party.

www.bbc.com

or

2-year-old Kansas girl killed by police officer’s stray bullet during hostage shootout

A Kansas police officer accidentally shot and killed a 2-year-old girl while responding to a domestic disturbance over the weekend, officials announced Monday. Officers from the Baxter Springs Poli…

www.nydailynews.com

or maybe

Pennsylvania Cops Charged After Stray Bullet Kills 8-Year-Old Girl

Two teens were initially charged with 8-year-old Fanta Bility's murder after allegedly starting the shoot-out, but had their charges dropped this week when authorities say it was a bullet fired by the officers that killed the young girl.

www.insideedition.com

and don't forget

Fired cop says he did nothing wrong in Breonna Taylor raid

Former Louisville detective Brett Hankison is charged with three counts of wanton endangerment, a felony with a sentencing range of one to five years.

www.fox19.com

It's late and I'm a bit tired, but I could go on for days

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

OK, so just one more tonight, because if you or I did this you dang well know that they would not send us to visit Clint Smith

Police Officers Who Shot at Two Innocent Women 103 Times Won't Be Fired

The eight Los Angeles police officers who shot at two women over 100 times will not lose their jobs. They won't even be suspended. They'll just get some additional training.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[ma96782]

RE : Post #6 and #7

Training wise.....
Excellent or Good or Just Enough........happens.

That all being said.......I doubt that POLICE are actually TRAINED to
"Spray and Pray". The reasonable and prudent side of me says.......that the police are more than likely thought......that they are responsible for every bullet that they launch.

Though, since it appears that you think otherwise.....so be it. You're entitled to your opinion.

What the Dept and/or the Courts and/or the Jury does in the end. Well, it's always a possibility and up to them.


Aloha, Mark

 

[Will_White]

RE : Post #6 and #7

Training wise.....
Excellent or Good or Just Enough........happens.

That all being said.......I doubt that POLICE are actually TRAINED to
"Spray and Pray". The reasonable and prudent side of me says.......that the police are more than likely thought......that they are responsible for every bullet that they launch.

Though, since it appears that you think otherwise.....so be it. You're entitled to your opinion.

What the Dept and/or the Courts and/or the Jury does in the end. Well, it's always a possibility and up to them.


Aloha, Mark

They might be told that but that's not backed up by reality. Words are cheap actions don't lie.

 

[RicInOR]

To be clear: " Police have not formally named him as the shooter, "

he was only charged with possession.



Some keywords to find this thread in the future
Jewayne Price

South Carolina

Columbia Police Department

 

[BrentN]

So is this a percieved uptick in spray and pray police tactics, or has it historically been like this? Is villifying the police combined with liberalized hiring practices having a net positive or negative effect on training?

 

[ma96782]

They might be told that but that's not backed up by reality. Words are cheap actions don't lie.

Rrrrrright????
SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT......the Police Departments are full of systemic racism and they are just trigger-happy Nazis.

DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

YES......you're entitled to an opinion.

Aloha, Mark

 

[Will_White]

Rrrrrright????
SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT......the Police Departments are full of systemic racism and they are just trigger-happy Nazis.

DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

YES......you're entitled to an opinion.

Aloha, Mark

Yes because anyone who has any criticism of the police is a BLM, Antifa, Defund The Police, Far-Left Liberal.

Rrrrrrrrright

 

[ma96782]

Investigations take time and in most (if not all) cases there is a charging clock. In some cases.....depending on the resources (and testing procedures)......an investigation could go quickly or slowly.

Then, there is always a possibility to re-charge (or dismiss) as the evidence path shows.

Sorry but.....the POLICE aren't infallible enough for SOME.

BLAH, Blah, blah.....
HISTORY of large organizations and all that. And well, it isn't ALWAYS PERFECT. Nor to everyone's liking.

So, picking out particular incidents can skew one's personal views.

YES.....I get that.
Though also consider for a moment......the successes.

Defund the Police.......there is too much systemic racism and they are just waiting to gun down the innocent "under color of law".

While you're at it........
Forget about the inmates on Death Row.
Let them all live.
Rrrrrright....... don't want ANY mistakes done here either.

Standard disclaimer applies here too.

Aloha, Mark

 

[Provincial]

I'll play devil's advocate here:

perhaps this guy really didn't hit anyone, just fired back at his attacker. In that case, it would really be self-defense, and the weapons charge would be all that the DA felt he could make stick.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

So is this a percieved uptick in spray and pray police tactics, or has it historically been like this? Is villifying the police combined with liberalized hiring practices having a net positive or negative effect on training?

I don't know what the moving goalpost of 'historically' will look like, but in 1985 the Phili PD burned down an entire neighborhood, so there is that

11 people died in police bombing of activists' house

11 people died, including five children, when a Philadelphia police helicopter dropped explosives on a house belonging to black activists.

www.bbc.com

Also I would argue pointing out actual historical facts hardly counts as vilifying

 

[ma96782]

RE : Post #15

YES.....it could happen.

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Back to the subject of Mall Shooters......
This thread reminded me of........
Well, I recently saw a YouTube video of a walk through the present-day Lloyd's Center. I haven't been there in more than two maybe three years. Yeah....watching it, I was reminded (in my mind) of the "gang activities and shootings" that had happened there (some might say........plagued the area). Whatever.

As for Clackamas Mall. Funny, but I didn't get those sorts of "feelings". YES, I know of the shooting incident that happened in the cinema entrance area. Who knows.....maybe one day, Clackamas Mall will also be on my DO NOT VISIT list?

Aloha, Mark

 

[ma96782]

I don't know what the moving goalpost of 'historically' will look like, but in 1985 the Phili PD burned down an entire neighborhood, so there is that

11 people died in police bombing of activists' house

11 people died, including five children, when a Philadelphia police helicopter dropped explosives on a house belonging to black activists.

www.bbc.com

Also I would argue pointing out actual historical facts hardly counts as vilifying

I agree that the BOMBING wasn't a good path to go down.

Also note what happened in the aftermath. I mean......to the Police Chief, his gang of higher-ups and the civil authorities involved.

Aloha, Mark

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

I agree that the BOMBING wasn't a good path to go down.

Also note what happened in the aftermath. I mean......to the Police Chief and his gang of higher-ups.

Aloha, Mark

From what I can tell they went back to work and the only one that got any punishment was the only surviving adult MOVE member, Ramona Africa, who was charged and convicted on charges of riot and conspiracy; she served seven years in prison

 

[ma96782]

From what I can tell they went back to work and the only one that got any punishment was the only surviving adult MOVE member, Ramona Africa, who was charged and convicted on charges of riot and conspiracy; she served seven years in prison

And she got IIRC over a million dollars.

BUT.....I could be wrong and awards can change with appeals, etc...

Aloha, Mark

PS...........

MOVE (Philadelphia organization) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org