I have a Safir Arms .410 upper half for sale. Price is $469. Comes complete with bolt carrier assembly and 1-5 round mag. Additional 14 round mags are available. Just slap it on your AR lower and you are ready to go skeet shooting.:laugh: I was actually thinking these would be good for 3-gun matches. Way faster to reload than the Saiga's and there is some really powerful .410 ammo out there now.