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Major Win for Us

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ZigZagZeke, Feb 4, 2016.

  1. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Just released.

    In the case of Kolbe v. O’Malley, the US Fourth Circuit of Appeals overturned a district court decision upholding the Maryland “Firearm Safety Act” which banned scary semi-auto rifles and full capacity magazines.

    That law is now null and void and this creates a split between the Fourth Circuit and the Seventh Circuit (which upheld the Highland Park, IL scary gun ban).

    We are giddy!


    http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=19946
     
  2. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    And a split between the Fourth Circuit and the Seventh Circuit courts means that the USSC may finally have to rule on a case to resolve the differing interpretations.
     
  3. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    The right to bear arms shall not be infringed...

    It's not about flintlocks, muskets or cap and ball firearms...

    It's about AR's, AK's and high capacity magazines...

    Aren't those similar to the arms that the military use?!?!?
     
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  4. waglockfan

    waglockfan Puget Sound Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they are.
    I don't recall reading about duck hunting when I read the Bill of Rights, Mrs. Watts.
     
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  5. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Awesome news, thanks for giving us some seldom GOOD NEWS.

    You beat me to it Waglockfan.

    It ain't bout huntin!!!! By no means!!!!!
     
  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You mean not every judge is an activist judge? Who knew!
     
  7. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    A round of drinks for everybody!
     
  8. CHLChris

    CHLChris Portland Metro East Love me some guns! Bronze Supporter

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    ...for if it were about those kinds of arms, then the First Amendment would only protect pamphlets, newspapers, and books made on a printing press.

    </whiney voice>"But, the Founders never conceived of a blog on the interwebz. They could never have meant for regular citizens to wield that kind of rhetorical firepower." </end whiney voice>
     
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  9. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Wield that kind of rhetorical firepower!" LOLOLOL!!!

    Good shot!;)
     
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  10. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    In all honesty, this has set a precident for the up coming so-called Assault Weapon ban of 2016 for Washington. Not that it will make it off the floor. But now this can be used as a case to overturn any stupid legislation. California and New York...............get on board
     
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  11. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Fundamental decision. It forces strict scrutiny on laws limiting the 2nd Amendment. Before they used intermediate scrutiny in which they may have been justified in their law. Not now though.
     
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  12. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    This is good. Now "perception of public safety" won't be a reason anymore to uphold these junk laws.
     
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  13. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Kalifornia will only get on board when Diane Fienstein, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi et. al. Are finally swept out of office...

    Again if you only let those who pay personal income tax or real estate tax to vote, things will change in a hurry....
     
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  14. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    This may just be a feather in our cap for celebrating today but it would not surprise me to see the SCOTUS come out and renig on all those recent victories before Owebama is shown the door early next year.....
    Call me a bird dog but America has been all but comatose by the last 7+ years of this Communist administration!!!:mad::mad::mad:
     
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  15. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    I think y'all oughta read the rest of what's at the link in the OP. Nobody "won" anything. Other than the 4th Circus has remanded the case back to the lower court for strict scrutiny.
    They didn't side with the plaintiffs on any of the critical parts of the case.
    And they didn't demand the law be set aside until the case is sorted out.
     
  16. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    The "critical" parts of the case were bubblegum wipes. Used bubblegum wipes at that. Vagueness? BS. Unfair application of the law because retired LEOs got to own them? Again BS. No one is EVER going to win a case on that. It was ONLY there to get them to use strict scrutiny. THAT is the win here.
     
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  17. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    By your standards maybe. When the 4th Circus deems the law unconstitutional I'll call it a win.
    When modern sporting rifles are again for sale in MA, I'll call it a win.

    Until then it's just in limbo.
    Not losing doesn't necessarily mean you won, when there is further review to be done.
     
  18. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    It wasn't a "not loss" it was a clear win by forcing strict scrutiny. I don't think you get how important that is. It has huge implications.
     
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  19. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yes, it does:
    Maybe this will help out:


    Federal Court requires ‘strict scrutiny’ in AWB challenge

    When a federal appeals court ruled Thursday that the Maryland ban on so-called “assault weapons” created a substantial burden on the right “to arm oneself at home,” it may have set the stage for a legal confrontation that “could have national importance” because of the potential impact on similar bans elsewhere, the Baltimore Sun indicated.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/federal-court-requires-strict-scrutiny-maryland-awb-challenge
     
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  20. Slobray

    Slobray Yelm, WA Well-Known Member

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    I enjoy Chief Judge Traxler's take on the 7th circus' decision.

    (emphasis mine)

    I especially love the way he called out Judge Robert B. King on his leftist tactics and him ruling based on his opinion and not on the Constitution ....


    Ray