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Yeah, who would Legal Aid Society want to screw more, landlord or gun owner? It's a toss up!!
Sad isn't it. Really sad how they have managed to make demons out of gun owners to this point.
I was at a grocery store last night. Noticed a guy open carrying. I thought "hey nice rig". Don't have to even guess how many in the store saw him and were gripped with fear that the gun was going to jump out and start shooting.
 
A Massachusetts landlord told a Harvard University graduate student that he wanted her to move out of her apartment because her legally owned firearms made some of her roommates uncomfortable.

The expression "Wah" comes to mind. Seriously, talk about wussification.
 
While I admit the storing of weapons wasn't the greatest. The fact that people decided to raid a room simply because she owned a MAGA hat is simply disgusting. Imagine if in lieu of MAGA hat it was the US flag or the gadsden flag or anything right of center related. One of them admitted that they were afraid the gun "might go off on its own". Fear and Ignorance lead to paranoia based off media sensationalism. They all lied about it too so obviously this was an organized effort by the roommates. Now imagine if the Red Flag law was in effect here...

Inb4 future landlords start making it a point not to rent/sell to 2A supporters/gun owners. Wonder if we could get some sort of special protection like minorities did with landlords refusing to rent/sell to them back in the day in certain parts of the nation.

Well there is the Left, the Intolerant Left and the Far Left. Now, had she gone thru any of their stuff being afraid they had illegal drugs, child porn, ect the Left would have crucified her.

When I was 19-20 I had a roommate come up and say, here's the $40 I owe you. I said you don't owe me $40. He said he did, he took it from my room one day. Didn't think I would mind. Lesson learned.

At the very least I would out these people on blast. Name, names. They won't change until they have a reason to change.
 
I can see it happening one day.

Do you get a copy of American Rifleman delivered in the mail?

Congratulations. You've just been declared an Enemy of the State.

Aloha, Mark
 
While I agree the ones who complained should have to compensate her for her move, assuming no contract was signed over this. I also feel the gun owner really got lucky. She moved in with people she did not know from dirt and left her firearms unsecured. She should have had some kind of safe. If it was only hand guns a simple safe sold to keep "things secured" would do. When roommates admitted they found said safe and wanted to know what was in it she could tell them to pound sand. If one of those roomies had stolen said guns and they ended up at a crime? She would most likely need a lawyer now.

Sounds like you prefer, "safe storage of guns laws"?

I don't.

+++++

It's her room (in her case). And my home (in my case).

Criminal misuse can occur with almost any object. Example: Knife, hammer, pressure cooker, rat poison, etc..... So, why are there no laws for safe storage in those cases?

Oh yeah.....typical thinking of the LEFT*....guns are only owned by "potential murders".

*And I'm not saying that YOU are a LEFTIST.

Funny, that not too long ago, people were demanding that the Govt get out of their private affairs in the bedroom.

But in the case of firearms.... The Govt. (or voters in the case of I-1639) needs to have everyone comply, by passing a law. What's next, 24/7 warrantless searches? You know.....to ensure compliance.o_O

Aloha, Mark
 
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Sounds like you prefer, "safe storage of guns laws"?

I don't.

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It's her room (in her case). And my home (in my case).

Criminal misuse can occur with almost any object. Example: Knife, hammer, pressure cooker, rat poison, etc..... So, why are there no laws for safe storage in those cases?

Oh yeah.....typical thinking of the LEFT*....guns are only owned by "potential murders".

*And I'm not saying that YOU are a LEFTIST.

Aloha, Mark

What in that makes you think I "prefer" more gun laws? If you have read anything I have ever written here you would know better. I do live in the real world though. Seems many do not. What I would "prefer" or "like" has nothing to do with reality. When you live in a city run by liberals they make rules. Leave your gun out in a home with a bunch of strangers, let it get stolen, then turn up at a crime. You can tell the judge and jury what you prefer till the cows come. That will not make it any better for you.
Now of course if I was on your jury they would never get my vote to find you liable. How many jurors like me do you think you are going to find in a place like she lived? Many people seem to either just never read what's going on or live with the idea it will never happen to them. <shrug>
 
I can see it happening one day.

Do you get a copy of American Rifleman delivered in the mail?

Congratulations. You've just been declared an Enemy of the State.

Aloha, Mark

I try to leave a copy or two at any Doc appointments. I am sure as soon as they are found many freak out, probably take them out and burn them. I still get a kick out of leaving one or two in the reading pile whenever I go. :)
 
What in that makes you think I "prefer" more gun laws?

She should have had some kind of safe. If it was only hand guns a simple safe sold to keep "things secured" would do.

It starts by people telling other people......what they should be doing, in the privacy of their own bedroom or home.

and

If one of those roomies had stolen said guns and they ended up at a crime? She would most likely need a lawyer now.

Stolen gun(s) are stolen.

But YES. The reality is.....that even w/o a law to mandate safe storage, some lawyers will try to sue the gun owner.

Put me on the Jury.

Aloha, Mark
 
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What in that makes you think I "prefer" more gun laws?



It starts by people telling other people......what they should be doing, in the privacy of their own bedroom or home.

and



Stolen gun(s) are stolen.

But YES. The reality is.....that even w/o a law to mandate safe storage, some lawyers will try to sue the gun owner.

Put me on the Jury.

Aloha, Mark

No doubt in my mine neither of us would survive Voir Dire to end up on the jury unless we lied.Sadly this is the world we live in. Remember the DC sniper? I still shoot at the range where that rifle was stolen. Lawyers went after the owner and ruined him. They even went after the people who made the rifle and I am pretty sure got a payment to go away.
About that same time there was a school shooting. Down south, 9 and 13 year old shooters IIRC. Guns were stolen by younger kid from his Grandfather. Kid used a cutting torch to break into his safe. Lawyers went after the Grandfather for money. He had to defend himself. It was tossed due to the fact that the guns were in a safe that had to be broken into. This was a long time back and in a more gun friendly state. I would not want to have to test this in Massachusetts. I sure do not like any of it but what I like changes nothing. This is why there is a tag on my hair dryer telling me not to use it in the shower. Some moron had to have done so, then family sued.
 
It's her room (in her case)

True! But I was thinking if it were my daughter living in a shared lease property while she attended a big time college (not bloody likely), and she had firearms she kept there, I would want her to have a safe just so those expensive items don't get stolen... insurance notwithstanding, and liability issues notwithstanding. She would be carrying her EDC into her classes, and her firearm would be on the nightstand at night.

I try to leave a copy or two at any Doc appointments. I am sure as soon as they are found many freak out, probably take them out and burn them. I still get a kick out of leaving one or two in the reading pile whenever I go. :)

Around here they'd be in a pile of similar rags!!! :D

But YES. The reality is.....that even w/o a law to mandate safe storage, some lawyers will try to sue the gun owner.

ALWAYS!!! That's a given.
 
Bushmaster. The first AR I owned. Pretty much ruined that company for many years. Were they bought out? IDK. But their products became bottom of the line.

YUP....
And that is/was a good reason why the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act was passed.

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Note that, the Democrats want to repeal that law.

Preventing Gun Violence
With 33,000 Americans dying every year**, Democrats believe that we must finally take sensible action to address gun violence. While responsible gun ownership is part of the fabric of many communities, too many families in America have suffered from gun violence. We can respect the rights of responsible gun owners while keeping our communities safe. To build on the success of the lifesaving Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, we will expand and strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in our current laws; repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) to revoke the dangerous legal immunity protections gun makers and sellers now enjoy; and keep weapons of war—such as assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines (LCAM's)—off our streets. We will fight back against attempts to make it harder for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to revoke federal licenses from law breaking gun dealers, and ensure guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists, intimate partner abusers, other violent criminals, and those with severe mental health issues. There is insufficient research on effective gun prevention policies, which is why the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention must have the resources it needs to study gun violence as a public health issue.

Taken from: Party Platform - Democrats

So then, if you vote/voted for a Democrat.....
Are you sure that YOU know what voting for a Democrat means?

Mind you that I'm not giving ALL Republicans a pass either. Some of them s@#* too.

Aloha, Mark
 
YUP....
And that is/was a good reason why the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act was passed.

+++++

Note that, the Democrats want to repeal that law.



So then, if you vote/voted for a Democrat.....
Are you sure that YOU know what voting for a Democrat means?

Mind you that I'm not giving ALL Republicans a pass either. Some of them s@#* too.

Aloha, Mark
Crap like that burns me more than most anything else. I don't see them sue Ford every time someone steals a Ford and kills. Or Sue Jim Beam for every drunk and such. Some how gun makers are supposed to be on the hook but no one else.
 
Crap like that burns me more than most anything else. I don't see them sue Ford every time someone steals a Ford and kills. Or Sue Jim Beam for every drunk and such. Some how gun makers are supposed to be on the hook but no one else.

I like how guns are seen as a great equalizer and sign of freedom or rebellion in other nations (think like how the AK47 is the liberation fighters weapon of choice) except in the American populace in recent media sensationalism they are now painted as scary oppressive and dangerous.

You cut out the media influence about 75% will drop their optics of guns being bad. Tell them something else is scary and they'll jump on board with that.
 
What I don't understand is why she didn't call the police & prefer charges for criminal/felony trespass or something to that effect.

If she did not sure how far that would go either. They all lived in the same home. Not sure if you called the Cops and said my roomies went into my room if they would even show up. Probably tell you that is a civil matter. Unless she could claim one of them stole from her. Maybe if she had a lock on the door to her room, and they forced the door, even then not sure they would want to try to make a crime out of it. They all agreed to live in the same home. If Cops started to take up something like this next would be some one would call and say their roomie ate their food and they want to press charges.
 
I like how guns are seen as a great equalizer and sign of freedom or rebellion in other nations (think like how the AK47 is the liberation fighters weapon of choice) except in the American populace in recent media sensationalism they are now painted as scary oppressive and dangerous.

Just having fun. So then....LOL. It seems more like it's about being black. :eek:

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But then.....
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You cut out the media influence about 75% will drop their optics of guns being bad. Tell them something else is scary and they'll jump on board with that.


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or
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Aloha, Mark
 
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