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M855 gel test

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Blitzkrieg, Oct 14, 2014.

  1. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    For those who underrate the caliber :eek:

     
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  2. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    No surprise.
    M855 also penetrates AR500 plate.
     
  3. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Not really. Shot it at 1/2 and 3/8 with no penetration. I think you are thinking M995
     
  4. FortRock

    FortRock Bend/Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    As always, very educational. Thanks Blitz.
     
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  5. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    The last AR500 1/2" clanger was retired because folks persisted in shooting M855 into it, despite club rule against steel penetrators. BTW, the target center was relatively free of damage.
    We tested M855 vs M193 against a new AR500 plate. The M855 bullet left a dimple, the next round chewed deeper, and so on. The M193 just went splat without penetration.
    Russian ammo advertises it doesn't have a penetrator, but it's composition makes it destructive to AR500.
    The bullet itself attracts a magnet. It's a lead slug, wrapped in a steel shell, with a copper wash.

    17 caliber and 22TCM bullets are destructive because of their high velocity. They punch through plate steel.
    They are banned from our indoor range.

    But there's a bigger issue.
    DRRC spends $100,000 each year to repair intentional vandalism.
    Club target frames are turned into toothpicks by some members.
    Think about this.
    Can the target be hit? How can you miss the center of a 24 inch rectangle?
    Can the deer be killed cleanly with minimum meat damage?
    Scares me out of the forest knowing Rambo is out there, spraying and praying.
     
  6. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    most bargain CF ammo is a washed steel jacket over lead. I have some 1990's Chinese 9mm that would strip the rifling from most handguns. Much of the steel jacket stuff is a thin mild steel jacket, no added penetration over full copper some of the Russian stuff is almost mil-spec
     
  7. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The 7N6 5.45 is indeed mil spec, great stuff
     
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    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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  9. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Fact is most situations in normal circumstances don't require barrier busting. I am a huge fan of the 7.62 x 51. I handload the caliber and am into the G3 platform, but lugging one everywhere as a daily rifle is not an option, and they are slower into action
     
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  10. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    That's the truth! I've tried lugging around my PTR-91 and that's a definite no-go...she's way too long and heavy...then the lack of a charging handle is a huge turn-off...so it's AK for me! Still farting around between my WASR-10 and my Galil...Going to try a cheek riser and a side-mount to see how she likes my ACOG before I make a decision. Iron sights offer simplicity but optics are a force multiplier...

    Got any suggestions on a side mount for a WASR-10 that will allow the use of the iron sights? That thing blocks the rear sight-post like it was intentional.