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Long gun storage options for apartment dwellers

Discussion in 'Knives & Other Discussion' started by ablaut, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. ablaut

    ablaut Salem(ish), OR Member

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    Not to beat a dead horse on the gun safe issue but...I am looking for opinions on how best to store my long guns in an apartment. We currently just have two, but...you know how it goes, we will probably buy another one or two in the coming year.

    My wife and I are currently living in a simple, 2-bedroom place. We have no kids yet and really don't have too many visitors. Crime has not been a problem (knock on faux-oak-veneer-particle-wood). Still, I feel it's my duty to at least lock up the firearms or the ammunition. And wouldn't you know it, I bought more ammo than will fit in my small 30" tall safe :D

    Now, I know I am not looking for some 1200+lb Fort Knox fireproof setup. A Bi-Mart special Sentry locker screwed into the studs in a closet has a certain utilitarian appeal. I'm certainly willing to pay more, but only if there is substantial added security or storage convenience. Suggestions welcomed!
     
  2. jbuck

    jbuck PNW Member

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    Nothing wrong with a stack-on as long as you mount it to some studs. Not the best, but will work better then nothing. People can get into anything with enough time and motivation. You will not get any sort of fire rating with out some weight though. As long as you know that you'll be OK.
     
  3. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I don't mind the cheaper safes, but I prefer one with locking bolts and a dial combination. The sheet metal safes are just too easy to pry open...
     
  4. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Try Costco they have several different ones in stock even smaller fire rated.
     
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    Da-Hui Seattle New Member

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    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    I am in your situation as well. I have a locker but can't call it a "safe" byany means. I know right now a 1200 lb safe won't go in an upstairs apt. We will be moving to a downstairs in 6 months or so and I look forward to the concrete floor that will take the weight of a true safe and a 100+ gallon aquarium. :)

    For now the locker bolted to wall and floor will suffice. I'm fortunate that the locker is 1.5" narrower than the closet that it's in. Near impossible to remove or pry cause there is no space.
     
  7. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    Putting a safe where there is no room to pry is a good idea. I'm going to build some very strong walls both sides of the door to my secure gun room for that reason.
     
  8. elsullo

    elsullo Portland Oregon New Member

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    The cheap sheet metal "safes" like Sentry or Stack-on can be augmented to be much stronger without much added cost. I bought the cheapest one and added to it. Because it fits into the end of a closet there is little leverage room to pry on it. I drilled more mounting holes and added several more big lag screws and washers to anchor it into the framing---no prying it out without destroying the walls!

    The piano hinge was well placed, but it was installed with aluminum pop-rivets! I added a row of about twenty steel flat-headed bolts with lock washers, so no more chance of just chiselling the rivets on the hinge side.

    I added a pair of BIG, heavy-duty, screw-covering lock hasps OVER the door on the locking side, with two big keyed-alike disc-locks. Every bolt was protected by multiple flat washers so there is no chance to tear the bolts out of the sheet metal.

    Sure, it's still just sheet metal, and a determined burglar could use a rotary power saw to cut in---but that would take time and make a LOT of noise. An experienced thief would probably not even try........................elsullo :p
     
  9. ablaut

    ablaut Salem(ish), OR Member

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    @elsullo, sounds interesting. That might just be the way to go. Do you have any pictures handy (just for curiosity's sake)?

    Has anyone had experience with Stack-On's "convertible" interiors? I like the idea; shelving is more valuable than gun racks for someone who only has two rifles..this month! :D But if it's junk, I'll just build something myself.
     
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    sweetbeard Beavertown OreGUN! New Member

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    They have those on display at dicks sporting goods... they are pretty nice, I have one for my ammo and pistols and I like the shelving.

    got mine on sale for onefiddy
     
  11. elsullo

    elsullo Portland Oregon New Member

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    Sorry no camera so no pics. I am OLD, so my phone is just a phone. I don't even know how to text---why not just talk to people?.........................elsullo :D
     
  12. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    You might look at getting a Zanotti safe - you can disassemble them & take them with you when it's time to move.
     
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    KenPDX Portland Member

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    That's really cool. Do you happen to know the prices or who around here sells them? I can't find any ordering information on their site.
     
  14. lowly monk

    lowly monk Beaverton, Oregon. Just a guy. Bronze Supporter

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    Hi all, I just keep mine under the bed. With limited funds thats where they go
    in soft cases of course.
    PS. Highly recomended, Get renters insurance. Take pix.
    Be well.
     
  15. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    It's my understanding that they sell direct & ship to your house. However, I don't see any prices listed, so I'm not sure...
     
  16. A2theK

    A2theK Olympia Member

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    You guys want him to build or stud drill into a rental apartment? Good luck with your deposit. +1 for insurance. Your apartment door is locked - your responsibility is done for securing them.
     
  17. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    Drilling into the studs in an apartment shouldn't be a deal breaker for deposit. A bit of spackle and some paint will normally be sufficient, especially in a closet.
     
  18. ablaut

    ablaut Salem(ish), OR Member

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    A few more nails in the wall is the least of my worries. Insurance is no substitute for responsible storage of arms. At least, that's the thought prompted my original post. I've lived in the place 3 years (much longer than anticipated, btw), so there are bigger blemishes than nails in sheetrock. Plus, the landlord said, "Just leave the nails in when you move out so the painters know where to spackle."

    anyway, I'm still undecided as to whether I should go for safe or just settle for a "gun cabinet."
     
  19. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    If you want to prevent loss from fire (to some extent) or loss from someone who has the time/determination/tools to get your guns, then a safe (RSC) is your choice. Of course, understand that these things have their limits - they aren't a bank vault.

    If you are just trying to keep the roommate/kids away from your guns or deter the smash-n-grab burglar, then a gun locker should suffice.

    There's also the question of moving the thing around - will you be moving soon, do you live on a second floor, etc. Safes (RSCs) aren't impossible to move, but they're a pain.

    I made do with a gun locker for several years before moving up to a safe. Never had anyone break in, so it's hard to say how it would have fared. However, I don't believe in leaving my firearms unsecured, so it satisfied that requirement for me. It was also easier to move two times.