Local gun shop employee, "CZ75 is a poor quality firearm, that's why I own a Glock"

[Sniperwannabee]

This is what a guy told me a couple days ago in a local gun shop. I didn't try to take the time to educate the ignorant F as I believe him to be beyond help.

Dang, I feel sorry for people just getting into guns and are being told this BS. I have nothing against Glocks at all of course but some of these employees are just plain dumb.

you should have said " ya how about i do you a favor and ill take this off your hands if you knock a couple hundred "

 

[clanhanson]

Hmm, yeah my 75b is so bad that I sold my glock!

 

[No_Regerts]

The CZ, like the other famous designs that use an internally-sliding, uh, slide, is based strongly on the designs of the SWISS firearm design engineer, Charles Petter.

Yup, the communist influence is strong, right?

So 'communist' was the CZ design that it was reborn as the Swiss-made Sphinx and the Italian Tanfoglio.

Nothwithstanding all that, I'm still puzzled as to what, precisely, a 'commie look' is? Please enlighten us iggerant folks.

You know, that look where people can copy the crap out of it because it has no patents since commies don't do such things. The oval ejection ports with skinny little extractors, strange rounded commie lines, stuff like that. You can look at an aircraft, car, or gun from a communist bloc country and pick up on the look immediately.

 

[clanhanson]

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Tell me that's not a pretty gun.

Exactly

 

[RVTECH]

I'm still puzzled as to what, precisely, a 'commie look' is? Please enlighten us iggerant folks.

This is what I think of when I hear 'commie look' !

 

[Ducati_Meister]

When I worked in a gunshop, I never crapped on CZ guns especially the CZ-75 guns as they shoot like $1000 guns but are reasonably priced. Old school designs I like and have their place nonetheless.

 

[Cavedweller]

You know, that look where people can copy the crap out of it because it has no patents since commies don't do such things. The oval ejection ports with skinny little extractors, strange rounded commie lines, stuff like that. You can look at an aircraft, car, or gun from a communist bloc country and pick up on the look immediately.

The Czechs were reluctant communists at best, commie by conquest, not by choice. While subject to Warsaw Pact mandates regarding ammunition compatibility, Czech engineers always strove to "do it better." Unlike other east bloc countries, which merely copied soviet designs, they tried to one up the Russians. Hence the CZ-52, CZ-82, and VZ-58.

 

[No_Regerts]

This is what I think of when I hear 'commie look' !

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Or....

 

[clanhanson]

Is this American enough for you nay-sayers?

 

[No_Regerts]

The Czechs were reluctant communists at best, commie by conquest, not by choice. While subject to Warsaw Pact mandates regarding ammunition compatibility, Czech engineers always strove to "do it better." Unlike other east bloc countries, which merely copied soviet designs, they tried to one up the Russians. Hence the CZ-52, CZ-82, and VZ-58.

They are great guns, but they got that....LOOK. They even had to name a version of their rifles "American" to appeal to our more refined sensibilities! Fooled me twice on CZ 455 Americans, a CZ 452 American, and a curveball with my Dan Wesson.

I will admit the first thing I do with a CZ 452/455 is buy parts to make it look less commie bloc, like replacing stamped parts with milled parts.

 

[No_Regerts]

Is this American enough for you nay-sayers? View attachment 838555

At least it's armed vs it's Soviet counterpart:

 

[clanhanson]

They are great guns, but they got that....LOOK. They even had to name a version of their rifles "American" to appeal to our more refined sensibilities! Fooled me twice on CZ 455 Americans, a CZ 452 American, and a curveball with my Dan Wesson.

I will admit the first thing I do with a CZ 452/455 is buy parts to make it look less commie bloc, like replacing stamped parts with milled parts.

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Should I replace the stamped parts on my M1 Garand to be more American (since stamped = bad)? Or should I polyurethane my k98 and sporterize it to appeal to the American hunting type? I'd say combloc weapons are beautiful in their simplicity and efficient designs. No fluff, no dumb names (looking at you Smith and Wesson).

 

[No_Regerts]

Should I replace the stamped parts on my M1 Garand to be more American (since stamped = bad)? Or should I polyurethane my k98 and sporterize it to appeal to the American hunting type? I'd say combloc weapons are beautiful in their simplicity and efficient designs. No fluff, no dumb names (looking at you Smith and Wesson).

Do whatever you want! My taste in guns is in no way related to what you like. If I hated CZ, I wouldn't own so many of them. But they got that....LOOK!

 

[No_Regerts]

But, now that you mention it, the Mauser in American form by an American craftsman does look more appealing. (Not my rifle)

 

[clanhanson]

But, now that you mention it, the Mauser in American form by an American craftsman does look more appealing. (Not my rifle)

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All history scrubbed. Travesty.

 

[No_Regerts]

All history scrubbed. Travesty.

More like a butterfly emerging from its cocoon!

 

[clanhanson]

More like a butterfly emerging from its cocoon!

And destroying every penny of resale value. Good call. It looks like a Walmart display rifle or a pawn shop relic.

 

[No_Regerts]

And destroying every penny of resale value. Good call. It looks like a Walmart display rifle or a pawn shop relic.

A $4,000 Wal-Mart special! Al Biesen polished that turd into something worth 10x more than it was with all of its history intact.

 

[clanhanson]

A $4,000 Wal-Mart special! Al Biesen polished that turd into something worth 10x more than it was with all of its history intact.

That's like repainting the Mona Lisa and saying it's worth more because a qualified artist did the work. Nein meine Freunde. I'll give that person $500 and re-outfit it with all its original kit.

 

[No_Regerts]

That's like repainting the Mona Lisa and saying it's worth more because a qualified artist did the work. Nein meine Freunde

Look closely. It's a commercial action. Chill....

Even if it was a military K98, it would be more like a Sunday comic than a Mona Lisa.