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List of Weapons Banned - as introduced 1/24

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by RicInOR, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. Don H

    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I looks to be all AR/AK rifle/pistols as well as some shotguns (mostly Saiga). This is not going to pass as long as we stand our ground.
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  3. just dan

    just dan PDX Active Member

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    Ban Proposal.
    It may be a minor grammatical difference, but "banned" being past tense insinuates it has happened, or "we lost our rights and were defeated."

    Her ban proposal is hideous. Go tell your representatives that. It's best use is a smoke and mirror trick to keep everyone focused on minor bans that seem downright happy in comparison.
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  4. Don H

    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Here is the 'Rifle Section' I typed it in myself so there maybe some typos... Looks like Thomson is really SOL!
    Here is the 'Shotguns' section

    The 'Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms'

    Here is the 'Pistol Section'
  5. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Contact your representatives.

    Congress.org ? Get informed, get involved

    I might try going 'old school' and printing out and mailing them an actual letter.

    Just Dan is correct this is a Bill, just a bill. Which could get attached to some other bill like a Military appropriations bill. It might not ever make it out of committee.

    But your Representatives Want to Hear from You.

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    Fine. Just give them a new name. For example just call an AR-15 a SMURF-105 or an AK-47 a Barney-407. Then maybe the libs won't be so afraid if they don't have scary names.
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  7. Glock Jock

    Glock Jock Wilsonville , OR Well-Known Member

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    good luck with all that
  8. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    She threw on Barrett rifles. Dumb move. Ronnie is a consistent man, and I can easily see him quitting selling those to the U.S. government like what he did to California.
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  9. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    The M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, and the 10/22 and similar where excluded.

    I am not saying I am fine with the list. What I am trying to say is the list has been watered down somewhat, to a point some may say "whatever...". Let's just be firm, we are not giving up a single inch. No more new gun control laws!
  10. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I agree entirely.
  11. mpperales

    mpperales Happy Valley, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Notice that only the Mini-14 "Tactical" is included...but not the Ranch Rifle....as if the aesthetics of the Tactical some how make it more dangerous....MORONS....:thumbup:

    AND....the Mini-30 is not on the list....
  12. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    It requires that all grandfathered weapons to go be transferred or sold to have a background check run.

    The most devilish part is that you cannot sale or transfer magazines over 10 rounds under this ban. So as your magazines wear out you are going to be stuck with 10 round magazines.
  13. teflon97239

    teflon97239 Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    If this gets "battled" by the same lecturing windbag "conservatives" who let Hillary completely sidestep them and eat up the clock at yesterday's Benghazi testimony, we're all toast.
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  14. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Dianne Feinstein Gun Bill: Text, List Of Guns Banned And Details Of 'The Assault Weapons Ban of 2013'

    Feinstein calls for banning more than 150 types of firearms | The Daily Caller

    Assault Weapons Ban of 2013
    Mass shootings in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson have demonstrated all too clearly the need to regulate military-style assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. These weapons allow a gunman to fire a large number of rounds quickly and without having to reload.
    The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
     All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
     All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
     All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
     All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
     All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
     157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this document).
    The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
     Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
     Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
     Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
     Antique weapons.
    The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:
     The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.
    The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:
     Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.
    o The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.
     Banning dangerous aftermarket modifications and workarounds.
    o Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.
    o So-called “bullet buttons” that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition magazines, frequently used as a workaround to prohibitions on detachable magazines.
    o Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a workaround to avoid prohibitions on pistol grips.
     Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.
     Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.
    The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines currently in existence by:
     Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault weapon.
    o This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.
     Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.
     Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
     Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.
     Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill’s enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon
    Assault Weapon Bans Have Been Proven to Be Effective
    The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more than 450 injured by these weapons.
     A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a 6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.
    Source: Jeffrey A. Roth & Christopher S. Koper, “Impact Evaluation of the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994,” (March 1997).
     The same study also found that “Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as victims.”
     The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.
    o Source: Christopher S. Koper, “An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003” (June 2004), University of Pennsylvania, Report to the National Institute of Justice, U.S. Department of Justice.
     The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the ban expired.
    o Source: David S. Fallis and James V. Grimaldi, “In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise,” Washington Post, at In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise
     When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore Police Department.
    o Source: Douglas S. Weil & Rebecca C. Knox, Letter to the Editor, The Maryland Ban on the Sale of Assault Pistols and High-Capacity Magazines: Estimating the Impact in Baltimore, 87 Am. J. of Public Health 2, Feb. 1997..
     37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals’ use of assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.
    o Source: Police Executive Research Forum, Guns and Crime: Breaking New Ground by Focusing on the Local Impact (May 2010).
    List of Firearms Prohibited by Name
    Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT–9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR–48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
    Pistols: All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP–9 and MP–45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.
    Shotguns: Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.
    Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB
  15. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    A Ruger 10-22 with a pistol grip stock or other cosmetic features would still qualify as "banned", as far as I know. Correct?
  16. duane black

    duane black Washington Well-Known Member

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    I like this one " or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm. "

    LOL - Glock 17/18 anyone ? :gun04:

    Nobody has one of those ...

    Guys, this will never pass. Still write, call and raise hell !
  17. Toxic6

    Toxic6 Higher then a PDX hipster (~10,000 ft higher) Active Member

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    LOL....what, no sks honorable mention?

    They can take this proposal and put it somewhere dark and smelly.........
  18. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    The part that lists specific weapons to be banned is there to distract you from the rest of it that, for example, outlaws any semi-auto rifle with a pistol grip, barrel shroud, or non-fixed stock.
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  19. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    And is this a semi-automatic shotgun with a pistol grip?

  20. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    i dont consider a pistol grip a military style feature on a weapon. seems to me it makes controlling the fire arm safer. wouldnt that be something they would want people to have, safer guns?

    also i didnt see SKS on there.

    i dont see this passing but its still worth standing up and saying "no sir"