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Lights/Sirens in a SHTF senario

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by java, May 12, 2011.

  1. java

    java kenmore WA Member

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    what are peoples thoughts on lights and sirens on personal vehicles in a SHTF senario. would it help being able to get through clogged up roads? or just piss people off?
     
  2. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't help us get through traffic half the time on a normal day.......................
     
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  3. java

    java kenmore WA Member

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    assuming a LEO? thats what ive seen also but i kinda figured it cant hurt. you do make a little more progress usually anyway. i
     
  4. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    i think it'd be as likely to make you a target, if the situation is such that firing up overheads on your POV wouldn't get you arrested. or do you just mean yellows? nobody gives a rip about yellow lights, and would probably spite you if they thought you though you were gonna get somewhere with them...

    so, in summary... reallocate that budget to ammo, my friend. ;-)
     
  5. java

    java kenmore WA Member

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    i have clear strobes now. but im looking at an electric "air" horn, and wondering if its worth spending a few bucks more for one with siren and welp
     
  6. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    I wouldnt want anything that could confuse me with LEO or Emergency response in any SHTF situation.
     
  7. oregonshooter

    oregonshooter AMERICA Member

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    If you need lights and sirens, you left too late. A push bar in front of an F250 7.3L is my choice. :)
     
  8. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    I'd rate this right up there with CHL badges and those guys who drive decommissioned cop cars.
     
  9. ruSSrt

    ruSSrt WA Member

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    Well if SHTF day comes and everyone on they way out of town or something is going on noone will give a rip about your lights or sirens (i think) people will be in survival mode running for their lives.
    I say more ammo and big diesel truck ..... Cummins for example :)
     
  10. Thebastidge

    Thebastidge 10411 NE Fourth Plain Blvd Vancouver WA 98662 Well-Known Member

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    Ditto. If there's enough law enforcement to care about it, you don't need it and it will just get you in trouble. If there's not enough LE to care about it, it won't do any good. Likewise with comments above, a ratty or obviously private vehicle with such a setup would look like a bandit trying to set me up- I'd be inclined to treat them as such.

    Get a push bar/cattle guard on the front of a heavy vehicle. Get the attitude that you need to help people out, and cooperate to get through the disaster. If you look like you are willing to sacrifice everyone else for your own good, they will reciprocate the attitude. Most of all, don't simply plan for one EVENT. In America, natural disasters don't mean lawlessness (even Katrin was overblown in the news). Lawlessness will only come about if we continue the long slow slide from civilization by moving away fro our founding principles of individual rights and responibilities, and then it won't need a huge triggering event. It'll creep up on you.
     
  11. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    +1

    Forget the lights and invest in a big push bar. Vehicle can't handle a push bar? Get one that will.

    Lights and siren in a stressful situation? Ask the LE who went through the LA riots or Katrina and how those lights and sirens worked for them.

    SF-
     
  12. java

    java kenmore WA Member

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    thanks for the input guys. i was kinda feeling the same way. they will only be useful when ill get in trouble for it. truck already has a full steel bumper if i had too i could push my way thru.
     
  13. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You hit my pickup with a push bar and you'll be finding out how much I invested in ammo. Just saying.
     
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  14. Bhowe

    Bhowe Seattle Member

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    Duramax+Allison...that otta get some fires burning!
     
  15. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious what folks with push-bars/steel-bumpers think the reaction would be if they pushed someone's car (without their consent) out of the way? It's not just a question of property damage. If I was in that car, I'd think that a) you were trying to hurt my family, and b) your actions might damage my car, leaving me stranded on the side of the road in a SHTF situation.
     
  16. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    I personally feel pushing someone's car is the absolute last and worst resort you can do to negotiate an obstacle. One you start pushing a car in a congested roadway you are going to make instant enemies. Your truck may be tough, but it isn't bullet proof, nor are your tires. It would really suck to have some tweeker come up behind your truck while you are attempting to push a car and have him pop your tires with a itty-bitty pocket knife and the office geek who has never had to rough it in his life but has mastered every 1st person shooting game ever created with a new Draco AK pistol next to you. Then what? You are now a road stand wal-mart for those around you to 'acquire' your gear.

    Best bet it to help those around you so you can negotiate the obstacle in a win-win situation. If you do decide to push a car, you had better be prepared to live with the consequences of your actions and ensure there is a safe and guaranteed escape.

    SF-
     
  17. java

    java kenmore WA Member

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    Push an abandoned car out of the way sure. A fence or a roadblock maybe. But just trying to push cars on a road is going to be suicide. Everyone else on the road will instantly hate you.
     
  18. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    People bug LEO for random crap as it is. Durring SHTF, if you run lights and sirens it would probably get people following you or trying to get you to stop. Imagine people jumping out in front of your vehicle (thinking you will stop to help) when you're just trying to clear the way to bug out.

    I think it's a bad idea...not for the legal reasons, but for the unwanted attention it would bring on you. I'd try to stay clear of the major roads as much as possible.
     
  19. dolooper

    dolooper Coast Range, or thereabouts Well-Known Member

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    Spend the money on an extra fuel tank and a cooling system flush. You're gonna be stuck in traffic anyway.
     
  20. kenno

    kenno eastern WA Active Member

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    As a former EMT I can tell you those lights will only make a target outa you!