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Libiyan Embassy Attack (Obama's Lie)

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  1. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    SENTINEL INTELLIGENCE SERVICES, LLC

    LYLE J. RAPACKI, Ph.D.

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    Monday –

    October the 15th, 2012

    1400Hrs; M.S.T. ( Arizona ) Lyle@Sentinelintelligenceservives.com

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    Email Briefing Bulletin: NOT RESTRICTED – FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION





    FOR YOUR ANALYSIS AND CONSIDERATION:

    I was asked by someone close to this disastrous incident to pass along the following regarding the TRUE STORY behind the death of two Special Operators –

    Navy Seals Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods at the hands of terrorists in Libya ! The information speaks for itself. These two hero’s gave the full measure to

    secure the lives of others’.



    Lyle –

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    LYLE J. RAPACKI, Ph.D.

    Protective Intelligence and Assessment Specialist

    Consultant at Behavioral Analysis and Threat Assessment

    Private-Sector Intelligence Analyst



    Will the real life story of incredible bravery, and the extreme courage of warriors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods be lost just because of Machiavellian politics ?


    Updates as more information is coming through. Even if the true story of their heroism casts an uncomfortable light of truth upon the lies told by President Obama and his administration we will tell it. They deserve it.



    President Obama implied, quite intentionally, in his Weekly Address that Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were part of Ambassador Christopher Steven’s security detail:

    “Glen and Tyrone had each served America as Navy SEALs for many years, before continuing their service providing security for our diplomats in Libya. They died as they lived their lives — defending their fellow Americans, and advancing the values that all of us hold dear.

    -President Obama (Weekly address)

    Sounds good, the only problem is this statement is a total fabrication. Yes, they were both former Navy Seals, but neither Tyrone nor Glen were part of the Ambassadors official security detail.

    No. The truth is: they heard the attack, they heard the gunfire, and despite the danger to themselves they rushed into the breach taking weapons from the frightened Libyan security officials to help protect the American Consulate, Ambassador Stevens and his embassy aide Sean Smith.

    Both Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were under no obligation to assist, protect or defend Stevens. They could have bugged out, they didn’t….. They ran into the breach. It was, and is, an important enough distinction such that two U.S. officials quickly wanted to tell the truth. They told the Guardian:

    [...] they feared the Obama administration’s scant description of the episode left a misimpression that the two ex-Navy SEALs might have been responsible for the ambassador’s personal safety or become separated from him.

    “Woods and Doherty weren’t part of the detail, nor were they personally responsible for the ambassador’s security, but they stepped into the breach when the attacks occurred and their actions saved others lives — and they shouldn’t be lumped in with the security detail,” …..

    According to what scant actual information is available the former seal team members, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, appear to have been in Libya because they were contracted by another intelligence office, probably the CIA, to track down the missing surface-to-air missiles from the initial rebel uprising.

    During the Gadaffi overthrow massive stockpiles of Libyan weapons including MANPADS and other surface to air missiles were looted from the military storage facilities. Estimates put the number of missing missiles around 20,000.

    It appears Doherty and Woods were in Libya to track down those weapons. As a consequence of their visit they were crashed at an annex to the US consulate grounds using it as a safe place to meet, coordinate, and evaluate their ongoing intel. Their location was approximately a half mile from the main consulate compound area.



    They were inside an annex building when the main consulate complex came under attack from the Libyan al-Qaeda terrorists. They heard the distant shots and responded to a call for help from the compound itself. Both Woods and Doherty evaluated the assassination attempt, and immediately took up arms to defend Ambassador Stevens.

    Their heroism is incredible when you consider what they were facing. Doherty and Woods reached the main compound of the Consulate and evacuated approximately 20 employees. Unfortunately, Ambassador Steven’s aide Sean Smith was already dead when they arrived. Woods and Doherty fought through the firefight, and took the consulate employees back to the annex building where again they came under another wave of attacks.

    Between the initial firefight at the Main Consulate, and at the annex building, for over two hours they were able to fight back against approximately 200 al-Qaeda terrorists, who pre-planned and coordinated the attack to occur in two stages.

    The second wave of attacks at the annex brought even more firepower upon them. Yet they held their position providing time for the 20 consulate employees to be rescued. In total for over two hours they held off upwards of 200 attackers, under heavy fire from RPGs, mortars, and at least one 23mm Anti Aircraft gun firing on their position(s) around the consulate grounds and the annex building.







    This story must be told. The heroism of Doherty and Woods MUST surface. They deserve it. Unfortunately, because the truth represents a risk to the manipulated narrative of the White House and State Department, it will be up to outsiders to keep the pressure on and force the truth to the surface.

    If we leave it up to the Administration and the State Department we will probably never know the TRUTH and the heroism of Woods and Doherty will not be fully recognized or appreciated.

    These guys died while defending US interests because they were brave patriots who put country ahead of self.

    We will not let their courage be hidden or diminished. I promise to do all I can to keep their story in the spotlight and provide their family the full measure of appreciation for their bravery.

    They deserve it.

    We will not forget, and will keep fighting for the recognition they deserve.



    Brandon Webb is a former Navy SEAL, author of a memoir, “The Red Circle,” and editor-in-chief of SOFREP (Special Operations Forces Report). He served with his best friend, Glen Doherty, at SEAL Team 3, where they were sniper students together. They had just completed a book together, “Navy SEAL Sniper,” which is due out in January. He Penned this farewell to his friend:


    Glen,

    I still can’t believe you punched out early on me, but glad to hear from the guys that you fought like a hero–no surprise there.

    You should know, your efforts resulted in the rescue of over 20 Department of State personnel. They are alive today because of yours and Ty’s heroic action.

    I know you hate funerals as much as I do but, the service in Winchester was humbling and inspiring. The people of Boston are amazing. I had to choke back the tears as me and the boys rolled through town, and thousands of people lined the streets to honor a hero and our friend and teammate. Seeing American citizens united around a hero, if only for a brief moment, restored my faith in humanity and that there’s other things more important in life than killing each other.

    Your family is and was amazing. Their poise, patience and the dignity they displayed was incredible to witness. Your mom, Barbara, stood by stoically for hours to ensure she greeted everyone who came to pay their respects. She was an inspiration to everyone who watched. Seeing your dad, his sadness and how proud he was of you, made me give him a big hug, and reminded me to work harder at patching things up with my own father.

    Greg delivered one of the best talks I’ve ever heard under the most difficult of situations. What an amazing brother; I hope to get to know him better. His speech made me reflect on my own life choices and how important our relationship with friends and family are. I’m going to work harder at embracing my friends and family the way you always did.

    Katie gave such an awesome toast at the wake with all the Bub lessons to live by, I smirked secretly to myself knowing that I’ve heard them all before and will never forget. “Drive it like it’s stolen!” and “Kids don’t need store-bought toys, get them outdoors!” and all the rest.

    Your nephews are amazing and so well-behaved. Great parents of course. F.Y.I., I told them I’d take them flying when they come out west. They were beaming when I described all the crazy flying adventures me and their uncle went on. I told them how you and I would fly with my own kids and take turns letting them sit on our laps to get a few minutes at the controls. I’ll do it up right and let them each have a go at the controls.

    Sean has been steadfast in his support role and has handled everything thrown at him. Helping him this last week really showed me why he was such a close friend of yours. He’s solid, and I look forward to his friendship for years to come. You chose well having him execute your will, he’s solid.

    We are all dedicated, as you explicitly indicated to us all, to throw you the biggest eff-ing party we can, and to celebrate your life as well as our own. Done deal; Sean and I are on it.

    Most of SEAL Team 3 GOLF platoon showed up in Boston . It was great to see how guys like Tommy B. just made stuff happen, no matter what was needed. Things just got handled like men of action handle them, no questions asked and no instructions needed — just get it done in true SEAL fashion.



    One by one the Tridents were firmly pounded into to the mahogany as the guys paid their respect. Mike and I handed the plank to your mom, choked back tears, and kissed her on the cheek. We both told her how much you’ll be missed by us all.

    Afterwards, the Team Guys, Elf, Steve, Sean and others tipped a few back in your honor. In good Irish fashion we drank whiskey from Sean’s “What Jesus Wouldn’t Do” flask, hugged each other like brothers and said goodbye, each in our own way.

    We are planning the yearly surf trip to Baja in your memory. We share Steve Jobs’s philosophy on religion and tolerance, but if you can arrange it, please talk to whomever and fire up a good south swell for me and the boys.

    My kids will miss their Uncle Glen. I told them it’s O.K. to cry (we all had a good one together) and to be sad but not for too long. You wouldn’t want that. They will grow older, and like the rest of us, and be better human beings for having known you.

    You definitely lived up to the words of Hunter S. Thompson:

    “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a ride!”

    When I skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke myself I’ll expect to see your smiling face handing me a cold beer.

    See you on the other side, brother. You are missed by many.

    -B.W.
     
  2. jib

    jib Central OR Active Member

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    I hope we get to the bottom of this one, this rivals Watergate, Iran Contra and White Water. Where is the FN transparency Obama promised :confused:
     
  3. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    Obama is a coward he will never understand guys like this.
     
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  4. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Interesting read....
     
  5. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    As far as I am concerned he understands little of anything relating to the security of the U.S., our people, or anything with regard to our Military in general.
     
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  6. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    Unfortunately his speech writers are pretty good at polishing up a story and manipulating it so he can claim credit for the actions of others in hopes of grabbing more votes.
     
  7. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Maybe so but his delivery could use some serious help. I can't help but think he is always just one word away from dropping into some sort of inner city street thug/banger vernacular.
     
  8. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I can see the only good part about this is that Hillary completely bubblegumed herself for a presidential nomination in 2016.
    "first question for Hillary,why did you lie about the embassy?"
    And the President had TV shows to do.

    So is it true that Obummer doesn't even make it to the briefings they have for him in the mornings?
     
  9. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    He's being purposely vague.

    Full Transcript of Obama's Rose Garden Speech After Sept. 11 Benghazi Attack - October 16 12 10:31 EDT - ForexTV.com

    "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts." Seems to blame the attack on the video.

    Six paragraphs later:

    "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done." He said terror, posterior covered.

    They knew in real time this was done by a branch of Al Qaeda, heck they raised their flag after cutting ours down. Our fearless leader HAD (now removed) in his standard speech a line that said "Bin Ladin is dead and Al Qaeda is on the run" foreign policy WAS going to be one of his advantages over Romney. So for several weeks they rammed home the lie that this was a protest that went bad even though there was no protest. That's why he put the vague weasel words in to his Sept 12 speech just in case the media failed to cover his back this time. Then he shamelessly calls out Romney for politicizing this debacle.

    Speaking of shameless, the video maker they perpwalked is still a political prisoner. I thought CA prisons were overcrowded but all this guy did was violate the terms of his probation by using a computer without consent.
     
  10. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    All politicians lie IMHO. It does bring a wrinkle of a smile to my face when I see the "Obamanation" slipping a little each day in all the polls.
     
  11. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    If that is the case be assured that TPTB have decided to put Romney into office. Maybe a better puppet for them at this point.
     
  12. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Frankly I think it is sad and disgusting how this tragic event is being politicized. Bottom line is that Presidents and cabinet officials don't typically micromanage state department security, and that is a good thing.
     
  13. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;Tu4rUUK_ETY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu4rUUK_ETY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  14. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Probably the best assessment so far. I an still confused though as to why TPTB put Obama in office - maybe to appease a certain 'demographic' of the U.S.?
     
  15. Jamie6.5

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    That's why when truly smart people are in charge, they listen to the people closest to the situation.
    The "boots on the ground." That way they don't HAVE to micromanage them.

    They don't poo-pooh them and take their protection away from them.
    They don't disarm Marine guards at consulates and embassies by refusing them ammunition for their weapons.

    But idiots like we currently have in charge think they know better, and do these stupid things thinking they can apply their PC thinking to the rest of the world, and be respected for it.

    The radicals of islam and other ideologues don't care about the PC aspect, they see it as a weakness, and seek to exploit it.
    And that's why this admin's foreign policy(ies) is/are the most dangerous and foolish of all the ones I've witnessed in my lifetime.
    Even Carter's State Dept. knew better than this one!
     
  16. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Four dead Americans,...
    "Not optimal."
    [video=youtube;Yr-8zBt4xU0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-8zBt4xU0[/video]
     
  17. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    When Americans die, we did something to provoke the attack, like a video.


    But when Muslims die its a terrorist attack! WTF


    W.H. Immediately Calls Bombing in Beirut 'Terrorist Attack'


    4:19 PM, Oct 19, 2012 • By DANIEL HALPER
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    The BBC reports that earlier today "A huge car bomb has killed at least eight people and injured 78 in central Beirut, Lebanese officials say."
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    Hours later, the White House released a statement condemning the "terrorist attack."
    "The United States condemns in the strongest terms the terrorist attack today in Beirut that killed Lebanese Internal Security Forces Information Bureau Director Wissam al-Hassan and at least seven others, and wounded dozens more," said national security council spokesman Tommy Vietor. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those killed and injured in this heinous attack and with the Lebanese people, who have sacrificed greatly to overcome war and violence. Lebanon’s security and stability are vital both for the Lebanese people and their neighbors. There is no justification for using assassination as a political tool. The United States will stand by the Government of Lebanon and the people of Lebanon as they work to bring those responsible for this barbaric attack to justice and build a future where all Lebanese can live in security and dignity."
    The White House's quick decision to call this bombing a "terrorist attack" shows a marked change after it took the White House weeks to call the 9/11 attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans a "terrorist attack."
     
  18. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;znVqyfxfbRQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=znVqyfxfbRQ[/video]
     
  19. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    Why so impatient for the official report Timac? The Obama Administration says it's coming out soon, right after the election. (s)

    I liked the part where the FBI waited weeks to go in because it was too dangerous and then they were only there a few hours, meanwhile news reporters are walking around wondering what the big deal is.

    And if Romney brings it up HE's politicizing it.
     
  20. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    BIGGER THAN WATERGATE: PROOF THAT THE PRESIDENT IS LYING ABOUT BENGHAZI?
    POSTED BY BLACKFIVE • [OCTOBER 26, 2012]

    Having a back and forth with a former legendary Delta operator. Here is the gist of what he is implying:
    The news is breaking today but there is a small bit that is being overlooked. According to the statements from Fox News: EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say | Fox News

    The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

    Everyone is reporting this but they are missing a key point. From the retired Delta operator:

    Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

    One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not "paint" a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

    Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

    If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

    If that SEAL was actively "painting" a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!
    This is far bigger than Watergate.
    The second worst feeling in the world has to be the platform crew being desperately asked for help, given a clear target and then having to stand down and watch your fellow Americans die.
    The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.
    Update: Even with two Predators on station, one unarmed and filming and one armed, the call to stand down comes from the same sources. Earlier today, Bob Owens at PJ Media posts http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/2...-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/ about the responsibility of the order to call off the mission as well as some good info about the AC130s on station.
     
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