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Let's talk about ar15mold - Freedom15

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by wobski, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. wobski

    wobski Portland Member

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    So I just discovered Freedom15 - ar15mold.com through their youtube channel and it seems relatively easy to pour your own resin lower with this kit.

    The base mold and resin kit costs $319 and includes enough resin to produce 5 lowers.
    $65.99 per lower. (not bad)

    Curious if anyone has tried this yet. Also wanted to put it out there and see if anyone would be interested in trying this with me.

    Cheers.
     
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  2. Fishnutz

    Fishnutz Hillsboro Member

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    I have never used one... But $120 for 5 refills?!?! I would be willing to try this out!:cool:
     
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  3. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The torture tests exposed air bubbles in the resin. Maybe if you could use metal reinforcing inserts for stress points.

     
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  4. Fishnutz

    Fishnutz Hillsboro Member

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    16:30 into that video answered all questions. No thanks!!
     
  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    As someone who has done a LOT of resin casted parts, I would NOT advise that material for a receiver you plan on using long-term. The buffer ring is the weakest point of the structure, and WILL fail unless there some sort of supported armature threaded insert that can be embedded.

    IMHO- You'd be better off going with 80% forged lowers and investing the money you'd spend on milling bits and a decent jig instead.
     
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  6. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    On the bright side, if SHTF, and you need some heat, you just need a match to light your lower and you've got a nice survival fire.

    It's a neat idea and could option to create backups in an SHTF event, but that's as far as I would go with it. I'll stick with metal or at least metal reinforced polymer.
     
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  7. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Glass-carbon-fiber/metal reinforced, for sure.
     
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  8. wobski

    wobski Portland Member

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    Thanks for all the input. I've opted to go with 80% and have since completed a lower. I agree these could be a good shtf backup.
     
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  9. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    @bolus
    Looks like a new project?! :D
     
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  10. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I've looked into in before but the companies that were selling molds were kind of sketchy. This seems like a newer company so perhaps it will be better.

    But I dont really have interest in doing a molded one when I have all the ways to finish aluminum ones at home.
     
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  11. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    In my professional opinion it's just not worth it. I like the idea but it needs to be reinforced allot. And all metal lowers are so available and dirt cheap. If I am wanting a spare lower for when TSHTF I'm going to purchase one now and just throw it into my BOB, and forget it.
    Or like it's been mentioned already, 80% lowers!
     
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  12. Fishnutz

    Fishnutz Hillsboro Member

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    I'm thinking if you add some sort of agitator to get those bubbles out, it might come out stronger... In commercial world of concrete they use a worm shaker, it vibrates the bug holes out that make concrete crumble... Same concept.
     
  13. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The other option is to put the mold in a vacuum chamber after you pour the resin, that will also help pull out the bubbles.

    Still doesn't account for the fact that it's not reinforced - that alone would keep me away from it.
     
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  14. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    That or a pressure pot, but you have to be QUICK on the stick to mix the resin and catalyst, make your pour into the molds, set it in the vac/pressure chamber and induce the atmospheric change BEFORE the exothermic reaction starts... usually that happens within a minute (or two) of mixing the "batter". It's not a lot of time!
     
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  15. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I didn't look to see the reaction time on this stuff. I've worked with epoxy resins a bit and have worked with stuff that had a pot time of 1-5 minutes up to almost 45 minutes. I know with some resins you can reduce the amount of hardner/reagent to slow the process, but there is a limit to how far you can push that.

    Maybe if Jerry Miculek was pouring the molds....:rolleyes:
     
  16. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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  17. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    It would be cool to make some chocolate ones using food grade silicone molds. I wonder what would happen if you gave one to an ATF agent. Or if you made one out of ice. Still a functional receiver for a little while at least it would probably fire at least once if it could take the hammer spring pressure.
     
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  18. wobski

    wobski Portland Member

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    Chocolate ar15, I think there might be a market for this. :)

    Can you imagine the look on the dealers face when trying to sell one? Haha!
     
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    wobski Portland Member

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    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I wonder what the ATF would say if I sent a letter of determination about selling a full scale 100% complete AR15 receiver in Chocolate. (I'd probably get the same answer as I got when I asked if I could get an FFL for selling at just at gun shows like Obama told me to or if I could make a power drill into a firearm )
     
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