Let’s talk Wall Tents, Tipis, Bell Tents, tent stoves & other related items

[Geardo]

These look really nice, and priced right too. A little lighter canvas than traditional.... But could always throw over an extra canvas tarp at a base camp type spot.....

Was looking at these guys last night. Looks real deal for winter camping. I really like the EXP Crew and Basecamp models. Their pack weight is very intriguing. Even the larger 3 person Outfitter can be paired with a g-stove and still be under 50lbs of total weight.
Snowtrekker Tents - Manufacturer of Lightweight Canvas Tents and Accessories

 

[Mister Bisley]

These look really nice, and priced right too. A little lighter canvas than traditional.... But could always throw over an extra canvas tarp at a base camp type spot.....

Exactly...or crank up the stove a bit. I sent them an email to see if they're good for 4-season camping, but guessing they are if the canvas is only 7oz. Will report back.

 

[osprey]

That g stove looks pretty nice albeit small for any tent or teepee with any size. Right now I have a non airtight stove with a 14x16x27" firebox and it will not go more than about 4-5 hrs when stoked full of wood and dampered down I am going to fab a airtight stove for my tent out of a cast off 40 gallon air compressor tank and incorporate some of the features of some factory built stoves I have seen. A big firebox and airtight are what is required as it allows it to be dampered way down so as not to drive you out yet hold enough wood to go all night with a med/low burn to keep the chill off in single digit temps.

 

[Mister Bisley]

Exactly...or crank up the stove a bit. I sent them an email to see if they're good for 4-season camping, but guessing they are if the canvas is only 7oz. Will report back.

The owner of Snowtrekker replied to my email:
Actually they do quite well. They are cooler than a lot of nylon tents because of the off white color. Also the fabric is breathable. We have mosquito netted door and window options that provide excellent ventilation. We use our tents year round.

 

[Mister Bisley]

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I've always been a big fan of Kifaru gear. Their range of tents and stoves, while not cheap, are first rate kit.

Probably not too great for snow load.
Found this though...maybe a better option for you. Can accommodate your new Gstove!
Megahorn Teepee with Wood Stove Jack (4P) Outer Tent

Definitely now considering options like these...weight and bulk are right, no frame required if needed. Would make great portable hot tents.

 

[osprey]

Many wall tents like mine are designed with pass throughs at the eves and ridge so you can cut poles on site and save the weight of the frame if desired.

 

[titsonritz]

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I've always been a big fan of Kifaru gear. Their range of tents and stoves, while not cheap, are first rate kit.

I keep their Woobie in my bolt bag. Dig the X-ray, wish they still made the Zulu. Great stuff. Would love to have one of their tipis and stove.

 

[shap]

I have an MSR twin brother that I had a Titanium Goat stove jack panel sewn into. Works great. I used to use a Kni-co Packer Stove in it. I switch over to an SXL titanium break down stove from Seekoutside a couple years ago. Great setup. I really like the Seekoutside Ti stoves. Especially the SXL as it is a good sized fire box, but breaks down ultra small and light weight.
I also started this thread several years ago to discuss the topic:
floorless tents and wood stoves, rafters need to get on board - Mountain Buzz

Some pics and vids of the tent with the larger non-breakdown kni-co packer stove and then with the newer Seekoutside SXL titanium stove:

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These steroid match/fire starters work great!

 

[Meridian7750]

I have an MSR twin brother that I had a Titanium Goat stove jack panel sewn into. Works great. I used to use a Kni-co Packer Stove in it. I switch over to an SXL titanium break down stove from Seekoutside a couple years ago. Great setup. I really like the Seekoutside Ti stoves. Especially the SXL as it is a good sized fire box, but breaks down ultra small and light weight.
I also started this thread several years ago to discuss the topic:
floorless tents and wood stoves, rafters need to get on board - Mountain Buzz

Some pics and vids of the tent with the larger non-breakdown kni-co packer stove and then with the newer Seekoutside SXL titanium stove:
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Great pictures, beautiful scenery, but I just don't get the dirt-floor thing.
Is it a weight-savings for backpacking?
Regardless, looks like many fine times were had...Well done!

 

[shap]

Great pictures, beautiful scenery, but I just don't get the dirt-floor thing.
Is it a weight-savings for backpacking?
Regardless, looks like many fine times were had...Well done!

Pretty simple, if you are using a wood stove its the easiest way to go so you don't have to worry about catching the floor on fire, also you can keep your shoes on inside, which is pretty nice, especially in the winter and when using cots as well. I don't backpack much anymore. Pretty much all boat-in trips.

 

[Meridian7750]

Sounds like a great solution for your applications then!
And again, great pics and fun times.

 

[bionic knees]

this tent from Davis tent and awnings took 2 people about a half-hour to set up and take down, definitely not a "hikers" tent but warm and dry.

 

[OldTengu]

Go to Andy & Bax. You can order a custom tent there.

 

[41mag]

I just don't get the dirt-floor thing.

decades ago I went elk camping over by Granite with "Old Art" the last of my buddy's father's post WW2 hunting group.
He invited us to meet him at 'the old camp site'; we were delayed & it was just at dusk (& very cold at that) when we hit the campsite. Old Art had erected his antique wall tent, had a decent wood stove & lotsa split firewood. Had the fire going & even had sourdough ready in the top of a flour can, a trick I had never seen before. No floor but he used a couple straw bales for the bed sites & about the tent area, with none around the stove by several feet.
His tent gear was well used over the preceding 30+ years. I recognized the tent maker but don't recall the name now. It was waterproof enough.
His cook gear was simple, cast iron skillet & dutch oven, old coffee percalator for stove top heating; well used Stanley & Coleman accessories, and a rich variety of tall tales of lost loves & the elk that got away.
This was an old repeatedly used campsite, they left the ridgepole up year round, and had a wood toilet seat cobbled up over a very serviceable space 'outback' far enough. There was even an old tree trunk running across the back of the tent, acting as a footboard, giving a sort of 'upstairs' with extra straw to throw our sleeping bags over.
I was the only one to take an elk that year. It gave me great pleasure to see that Old Art got his extra share of the liver & other parts he favored. It took most of the day to bring the elk to camp; I had never cleaned one before so I had the chore of cleaning everything above the diaphragm. There was an amazing amount of membranes he wanted separated out.

We even had a carcass jumper that tried to steal our elk. Old Art had showed us his secret 'hidden dime' trick and the thief took the hint that leaving was the best choice.

We broke camp in a few days. I have a favored photo around somewhere, of Old Art in his red long johns & suspenders, in the snow, shaving with his hatchet. He filled out our tags with amazing tales from the days long before we were born.
He showed 'easy' ways to make handling a large elk carcass less tribulation. He knew his was a mission of transmitting what the years had taught him: good gear, well maintained, good friends, and shave before you head back to civilization.
Art didn't make it to elk camp the next year.

 

[Gunner3456]

Many wall tents like mine are designed with pass throughs at the eves and ridge so you can cut poles on site and save the weight of the frame if desired.

We always cut a pole on-site for our ridge pole. We fasten it between two trees. The only other things we need are the ropes and tent stakes.

Change subject - Does Bi-Mart still have those closed-cell foam sleeping pads that are about 4" thick and a bit bigger than a sleeping bag? Closed cell won't absorb water and the foam keeps one off the ground and therefore very warm.

 

[bionic knees]

decades ago I went elk camping over by Granite with "Old Art" the last of my buddy's father's post WW2 hunting group.
He invited us to meet him at 'the old camp site'; we were delayed & it was just at dusk (& very cold at that) when we hit the campsite. Old Art had erected his antique wall tent, had a decent wood stove & lotsa split firewood. Had the fire going & even had sourdough ready in the top of a flour can, a trick I had never seen before. No floor but he used a couple straw bales for the bed sites & about the tent area, with none around the stove by several feet.
His tent gear was well used over the preceding 30+ years. I recognized the tent maker but don't recall the name now. It was waterproof enough.
His cook gear was simple, cast iron skillet & dutch oven, old coffee percalator for stove top heating; well used Stanley & Coleman accessories, and a rich variety of tall tales of lost loves & the elk that got away.
This was an old repeatedly used campsite, they left the ridgepole up year round, and had a wood toilet seat cobbled up over a very serviceable space 'outback' far enough. There was even an old tree trunk running across the back of the tent, acting as a footboard, giving a sort of 'upstairs' with extra straw to throw our sleeping bags over.
I was the only one to take an elk that year. It gave me great pleasure to see that Old Art got his extra share of the liver & other parts he favored. It took most of the day to bring the elk to camp; I had never cleaned one before so I had the chore of cleaning everything above the diaphragm. There was an amazing amount of membranes he wanted separated out.

We even had a carcass jumper that tried to steal our elk. Old Art had showed us his secret 'hidden dime' trick and the thief took the hint that leaving was the best choice.

We broke camp in a few days. I have a favored photo around somewhere, of Old Art in his red long johns & suspenders, in the snow, shaving with his hatchet. He filled out our tags with amazing tales from the days long before we were born.
He showed 'easy' ways to make handling a large elk carcass less tribulation. He knew his was a mission of transmitting what the years had taught him: good gear, well maintained, good friends, and shave before you head back to civilization.
Art didn't make it to elk camp the next year.

nice story.

 

[osprey]

Not only do the pass through holes at eve and ridge allow for onsite poles to be used in lieu of a metal frame, they also allow for easy frame extension for a tarp storage area or whatever. During ML season it was warm out so we put the cooking out front under the add on tarped portion. It worked great and gave us more room inside tent.

 

[shap]

Western general black tail hunting last week (successful) where you have to use a shotgun or a bow. Drying out at lunch time before the evening hunt. Bonus points if you can guess the make and model of grandads shotgun shown in the video that I was able to take a buck with this year at 12 yards with a Brenneke KO 1 oz 12 gauge slug.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Great pictures, beautiful scenery, but I just don't get the dirt-floor thing.
Is it a weight-savings for backpacking?
Regardless, looks like many fine times were had...Well done!

I've never seen a heavy duty canvas wall tent with a floor.

 

[titsonritz]

I have an Ellis Cavalry bedroll, I have woke up in it with over a foot of snow on me, it is truly a badass unit. Just thinking about it makes me want to sell/trade a few ARs for a couple mounts and break out my saddle bags, bed roll, wheel gun and belt rig and hit the wild for while.