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Legal to fire BLANKS as warning shots?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by swpost10, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Most state/local laws ban "firearm discharge" BUT are
    Blanks included? That Clark warning shot arrest
    highlites the issue; would it be legal if he used blanks?
    Opinions, ideas and facts please!
     
  2. PDXoriginal

    PDXoriginal PNW Well-Known Member

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    NOPE, he would still be charged the same. It really doesn't matter if blanks were used, the intent is there, it is still unlawful discharge.

    And before somebody brings up using blanks in public displays such 21 gun salutes at funerals... those guns are not being pointed at other people as a display of aggression.
     
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  3. nwo

    nwo Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It is still discharging a firearm, even if there is no bullet.
     
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  4. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    what's the point of blank in real self defense situation?

    you might be dead already before you pull the 2nd trigger for real bullet.
     
  5. Mathmattx

    Mathmattx Ellensburg Active Member

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    A blank is treated like a bullet. Gun shouldn't be fired unless you mean to use it anyway. You want a noise deterrent rack a shotgun.
     
  6. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    If you rob a bank with a toy pistol, it's still armed robery... same concept.
     
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  7. Frankenrifle

    Frankenrifle Clatskanie Active Member

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    The only 'warning shot' an attacker needs is one placed directly center-mass.
     
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  8. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I will amplify that a bit. In the event a shot is fired by you and the perp is armed, he just might be able to fire back legally in self-defense and kill you, and would not be charged with that. How would he know you were using blanks?

    I know of a case in Sno county a few years ago where a drug dealer and illegal alien killed a guy in a beef, but because he fired in self-defense, he was not charged with the man's death. He faced other charges, of course, but got a walk on the shooting.
     
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  9. Outrider

    Outrider Oregon Active Member

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    One thing to add is that firing a blank results in a muzzle blast that can produce significant damage at close range. Some people have been killed by blanks fired at close range. One of the higher profile instances was back in the 80's. An actor named Jon-Erik Hexum put a revolver loaded with blanks to his temple and pulled the trigger as a joke. He made it to the hospital but he died several days later.
     
  10. nwwoodsman

    nwwoodsman Vernonia Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Shotgun should already be racked when being used in a self defense situation. If you want a noise deterrent wait for the sirens.
     
  11. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Now that all depends on what race his mothers second cousin was on her fathers side. And if they were ever on a wagon crossing the plains.
     
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  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Warning shots are always bad business, legally. Just say no
     
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  13. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    this, also flashing your gun is just as bad. it can go downhill from legal point, even you were trying to do the right thing.

    to me, only time you need to pull out the gun is, when you are 99% sure you are going to pull the trigger.
     
  14. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Thanks to everyone for your views - this just
    what I hoped for and reveled views I did not
    consider at first glance. That man wanted,
    and succeeded at scaring off 3 men breaking
    into his car with his shotgun -guess racking
    that slide or having it there was not enough.
    Perhaps he saw that 15 second car entry+theft
    on the news and knew the low vehicle recovery
    rates means he would loss his (uninsured?) car?

    Thanks again - knowledge is always good!
     
  15. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    wait, what? :huh:
     
  16. RBid

    RBid Wilsonville, OR Well-Known Member

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    There are actually a lot of circumstances where Ability, Opportunity, and belief that Jeopardy is imminent (as opposed to present) justify drawing without firing. I guess you could call it 8/9 of the Deadly Force Triangle. Example: group of guys (Ability) advancing toward you in a parking garage (Opportunity), threatening you (reasonable belief of Jeopardy). In this situation, drawing is valid, firing is not. This is part of why so many instances of defensive firearm use are resolved without firing. When Jeopardy is not yet complete (meaning violence has not yet occurred), firearms have time to work as a deterrent.
     
  17. bellarum

    bellarum beaverton Well-Known Member

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    The first center mass shot is the warning shot for the second criminal:)
     
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  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Between my lady and I we've been there 8 times.. and that displayed handgun was like a magic wand
     
  19. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    you need to change the places you hang out at
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Central valley, CA.. not like we had a choice.. why you thunk we escaped up here?

    I should elaborate a bit as to where these occurred

    A deserted rural Sacramento river beach

    Parking lots

    Back HWY VS illegal alien serial killers who were later caught

    Gas station

    My own living room

    Etc
     
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