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Lead hardness tester

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Janes, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    I need to know if the stick on wheel weights are pure lead. I found a simple way to test hardness of lead, but I need some pure lead
     
  2. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    What does your tester say?
     
  3. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    I don't have a tester. I found a way to test lead if I had a piece of pure lead
     
  4. evltwn

    evltwn Gold Hill Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Pray tell, what is your method?
     
  5. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Pure lead bends very easily. It is my understanding that stick-ons are generally way softer than WW's.
    Why do you need pure lead, to just test out your "tester" that you don't have?
     
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  6. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    When I get home I will post the instructions You use some pure lead and some unknowen lead and put a ball bearing between them and squeeze them in a vise. The you measure and using some calculations to come up with the hardness
     
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Everybody needs a hobby. I usually listen for a/the "ring" and or try to bend or cut it with an axe or cutters. Do you work for Nasa?
     
  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I'd not bother. It seems you know about nothing. good talk though!
     
  9. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    When you cast bullets you need to know hard it is

    If you get on the Internet you can find many ways to test hardness of lead
     
  10. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I'd say you're being kinda silly.
     
  11. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    This is what Ive been using for years! Made by Saeco, I have seen them on ebay also.

    l_749012736_1.jpg

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  12. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    Yes I have seen those. I may get that one
     
  13. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    But he needs some pure lead to test his tester..
     
  14. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Also muzzle loader balls should be cast from pure soft lead.

    His method of putting it between soft/pure lead and the unknown lead and squeezing it will in fact work.

    Why Certaindeaf is giving the OP crap over this is beyond me.
     
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  15. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    The boy is speaking in tongues and doesn't even know what he's talking about.
     
  16. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    Sounds like you need to do some searching on the web to find out if I am right or wrong
     
  17. Rick4070

    Rick4070 Central Oregon coast Active Member

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    I use to have a hardness tester from LBT, it worked well.

    It is nice to know what Brinell # your alloy is, as different alloys are used for different purposes, and sometimes harder (or softer),ain't always better for a purpose.

    I saw the ball bearing "tester" method being used in a couple different publications in the past, it seemed to work pretty well.

    Then again, even with a tester, it isn't going to give you what percent of trace elements are in your unknown alloy, tin, antimony, etc.

    If I needed 100% pure lead, I'd buy some from Alfa Aesar who sells pure elements and metals.

    If I needed what would work as pure lead, I'd buy some plumbers lead, or some lead flashing, and make up an ingot, and go from there.

    Or, perhaps here:

    http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/leadingotpure.htm
     
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  18. Janes

    Janes Enid, Oklahoma Member

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    Thanks for the information. I think I will get a tester because with the ball bearing testing would be pretty slow if you had to a lot of testing
     
  19. Rick4070

    Rick4070 Central Oregon coast Active Member

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    The method is described in the NRA book "Cast Bullets" by Col. E.H Harrison.
    My edition is the 1982 printing.
    ( I THOUGHT I remembered it being in one of my books...)
    IIRC, the SAECO tester needs a smaller diameter bullet, like a cast rifle bullet to fit in the tester, but I might be mistaken on that...
    The LBT tester:

    http://www.lbtmoulds.com/hardtester.shtml

    It runs about $100, and will work with any flat nosed cast bullet less than 1" long.
     
  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Why do you need a tester if you have a.. nevermind.. hobbies are good perhaps