Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Lasersights for handguns

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by jesse, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. jesse

    jesse Vancouver New Member

    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello,
    Does anyone have any recommendations for lasersights?

    Are they worth it?
    What are people's experiences who have them?

    I am looking at purchasing one for my G27.
    I am looking at Crimson Trace (LG-626 and LG-436)

    Your feedback is appreciated.


    Jesse
     
  2. Point356

    Point356 Southern Oregon New Member

    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    1
    I would put one on the pistol that I kept under my pillow!! :sleep:


    Yes I think they are helpful by reducing time to acquire target.
    I prefer Laser/light combos, the strobing feature of most lights can be very disorienting!
    Depending on the model and its design aiming the laser can be a practice in futility!

    I like this laser/light http://www.botachtactical.com/sigsasttali.html
     
  3. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,351
    Likes Received:
    336
    I have read, and it makes sense to me, that putting a laser on a handgun can be very useful in improving your grip and trigger pull. The thought is that you can put the laser on a target and watch it as you pull the trigger. Some say they are very surprised how much movement there is, and that they practice by dry firing. Seems like it could go a long way in improving accuracy with all your handguns.
     
  4. glockguy

    glockguy Albany Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    60
  5. HalfNutz

    HalfNutz Kirkland (Juanita) Member

    Messages:
    157
    Likes Received:
    4
    I've got two pistols with Crimson Trace, one with the LaserLyte (dovetails in and replaces the stock rear sight), and one with the Streamlight TLR-2 combo laser/light.

    They help my aim. Some don't like them, some do. I'm one of the people that like them.

    Check out the video that LaserLyte has of them using their laser mounted on a handgun to drive in a 16d nail. Pretty impressive.
     
  6. FarmerTed1971

    FarmerTed1971 Portland, Oregon, United States Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    907
    Likes Received:
    266
  7. alfack

    alfack Marysville Member

    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like them, if they don't add excess bulk to the gun. I have the CTC on my LCP. I can actually shoot the damn thing accurately w/o having to look at the gun.
     
  8. glockguy

    glockguy Albany Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    60
    My cousin who is in the military, special forces to be exact, has the pleasure of testing out these lasers. Their weapon of choice is the glock 22. They have tried the laser max and had ok results with it.. He said that the laser max tends to have some issues staying on target and needs some resetting, not all of them but some... they are trying out the Laser Lyte tight now and have nothing but good to say about it so far, so thats one reason why i am considering it. Plus $130 compared to $350 is a little better thats pretty much a new gun
     
  9. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,351
    Likes Received:
    336
    I have been thinking about that laser lyte for my XDm, just wanted to wait a little longer to see how it holds up sitting on top of the slide like that.
     
  10. HalfNutz

    HalfNutz Kirkland (Juanita) Member

    Messages:
    157
    Likes Received:
    4
    That's what I've got mine on. :thumbup:
     
  11. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,351
    Likes Received:
    336
    OK, you convinced me, just put a bid in on one on ebay. What did you have to do to have it installed? I know the old XD's rear sights had to be machined out a lot of the time.
     
  12. 2gr8dgs

    2gr8dgs oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    80
    Jesse, I think crimson trace laser grips are great, but not the ones that wrap around the glock backstrap. I think it makes a somewhat wide (for concealed carry) gun, even wider.
     
  13. jdub75

    jdub75 PNW Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    63
    I had a lasermax in my G22 for prolly 7-8 years w/out a hiccup. If they made one w/ a better activation for my M&P's, I'd have one in both of those. I don't like extra crap if I can help it hanging off the pistol.
     
  14. HalfNutz

    HalfNutz Kirkland (Juanita) Member

    Messages:
    157
    Likes Received:
    4
    The LaserLyte comes with a brass drift punch. I put the laser in the freezer and the slide in the oven at 250 for about 15 minutes, drifted out the stock sights and drifted in the new laser/sights. The new sights come with a set screw to keep them in place once you have them lined up.

    The hardest part was not having an actual sight adjustment tool and just having the drift punch. Getting the laser/sight centered took a few minutes.

    The stock sights came out pretty easy. I have one of those portable Workmate workbench/vise combos that worked great with it's wooden jaws.
     
  15. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    175
    I have Crimson Trace grips on two of my house guns, wouldn't be without them.
     
  16. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

    Messages:
    1,794
    Likes Received:
    1,436
    I've come to believe that CT lasergrips are essential to a personal defense gun. I come on target much faster. I have greater confidence my round is going where I want it to go and above all my eyes are on the target.

    I still shoot iron sight at the range but any situational training has the laser on
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Clackamas County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    347
    Likes Received:
    34
    I bought a set of CT's on a whim for a 442 Smith J frame. I find that I can shoot the snubby revolver better at the range without the laser. There is something about looking at the dot rather than the front sight that I cannot get used to. I am perhaps too disciplined in the "focus on the front" sight to be open minded enough to adapt to the CT laser as it is mounted on the revolver. I also find the dot distracting and it slows down my draw and fire time too much when "point shooting" with this particular close-range-only weapon.

    I also find that with of the laser beams grip designs, like the CT's, for example, the beam itself is blocked out by the proper placement of the trigger finger on frame. I find that very disconcerting. I default to my training and my finger blocks out the laser. So the kinds of lasers that are mounted in the guide rod area of the auto pistol may have an advantage over the grip-mounted ones in this regard.

    I do find lasers very useful for dry firing practice. I bought a CT for my wife's SD pistol, for her use in the home at night. I consider them pretty useful for the occasional, minimally-trained shooter (like my wife) in a low light SD application. I prefer night sights myself.

    I will say that the Crimson Trace product is very good quality and I have had no problems of any sort with two sets of CT grip types that I own.
     
  18. numbnutz

    numbnutz molalla Active Member

    Messages:
    741
    Likes Received:
    56
    Personally I think a laser can do more damage than good in a defense situation.

    1. being there is the possibility of distracting yourself or getting to caught up with where the beam is.

    2. If you can see the end of the beam it usually means that the person on the other end can see the beginning, if you think about the way you hold your pistol the little red dot on your gun is going to give away your dead center body mass. Just my 2 cents- Jason
     
  19. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    377
    I have the LG-626 on a Glock 26 and like it, plus CT has outstanding customer service and they are local (wilsonville). I lost the little allen wrench for adjusting the laser and simply emailed them to ask what size it was. They mailed me 3 extra allen wrenches, 2 sets of batteries, extra pins and cleaning swabs.
    It is a good training tool to make sure your POA isn't shifting during trigger pull and is good if you need to shoot from retention without having time to bring the gun up or extend it if you are close enough for a gun grab. It seem to hold zero well and doesn't add noticeable thickness to the gun (it does add a little thickness but hasn't been an issue with my CTAC holster). I do keep using the front sight to shoot from normal shooting positions because I don't want to become dependent on any electrical devices.
    I am unsure about the lasermax (other one that I was considering) because if it fails, so can the gun, although I haven't heard of this happening. The rear sight model looks like it could get knocked around too much and adds weight to the slide.
     
  20. LibertyorDeath

    LibertyorDeath Western Washington Member

    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    3
    Lasers need batteries and batteries die.
    Night sights are radioactive, they last 15 years or longer.
    The laser dot can disappear in bright light.
    The laser beam on someone's chest is a good indicator of where the bullet will hit them.
    Good lasers are more expensive than night sights or even a Night sight/TLR3 combo.
    Even if you have a laser you still should train mostly with iron sights.