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I am a student at LCC and have often had discussions with fellow students regarding conceal carry. Believe it or not...most students...including the extreme left leaning...believe in these rights. I guess even they see rights being taken away by the new environment of politics. Anyway, I by no means take credit for this article, but I do believe the frequent discussions around campus finally got attention and they addressed it. The following is copied from their newspaper site from Oct 29. Link:
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The Baron's Den shooting Range plays host to LCC's concealed weapons certification course. The class is taught by Raye Gunter.
Licensed to carry
Firearms allowed on campus with concealed weapons permit
By: Brent Jones
Posted: 10/29/09
There is an ongoing debate over gun control at LCC. Current regulations ban firearms on campus, yet individuals who obtain a government permit are exempt from this rule.
There has been a lot of discussion and debate over the topic says Operations Manager of Public Safety Katherine Vos. "Firearms are not allowed here," Vos said. "However, if you have a concealed weapons permit you're allowed to carry."
According to Vos, when it comes to obtaining a concealed weapons permit individuals undergo a strict evaluation to ensure the safety of the public. "We're not too concerned with those folks that have concealed weapons," Vos said. "They're generally outstanding citizens. They've been scrutinized through the process to even get that concealed weapons permit."
While individuals with permits are allowed to carry guns on camps LCC board policy dictates that public safety officers are not provided with firearms. Many officers have concealed weapons permits but are not allowed to carry on campus.
Many feel allowing concealed weapons on campus puts public safety officers at a disadvantage. They won't know where the weapons are and can't match the threat. According to Vos, the best tool at a public safety officer's disposal is their voice. Using your brain and trying to get people to do what you want may help prevent crimes from taking place to begin with.
The root of the concern is at night when public safety operates with a reduced staff. "There's drug deals, there's selling," Vos said. "We find a lot of bad characters of crimes going on."
Kate Barry, Executive Dean of Student Affairs understands that public safety officers have a lot to deal with on campus, but doesn't think most of those situations can be improved with a gun. "There are people who, for very legitimate reasons, feel like concealed weapons add a dimension of safety. I don't personally agree with that," Barry said. "But we follow the legal requirements."
Raye Gunter works at the Baron's Den shooting range and teaches a concealed carry class at LCC. As part of his curriculum he teaches students a range of things, including proper gun etiquette. "We teach all different types of handgun safeties," Gunter said. "Different types of handguns ... how they operate ... different types of ammunition for different purposes." Gunter has taught this LCC class for approximately seven years. It's offered Fall, Winter and Spring terms, and if attendance is high, summer classes are taught as well.
According to Gunter, areas with a concentration of licensed individuals have seen a decrease in crime rates. "In incidences where people used firearms for illegal acts ...something like 0.07 percent of those are actually licensed concealed weapons holders." Gunter said. "There are steps in place to protect the public at large."
© Copyright 2009 The Torch
***Note we will have to tell the campus police "got you covered" if an altercation takes place. I would support some kind of petition to get campus police legal CHL on campus. By all intents and purposes, they're just as trustworthy as the rest of us IF they have a CHL. I actually prefer they carry CHL instead of open carry so nutcases can't tackle and take.***
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The Baron's Den shooting Range plays host to LCC's concealed weapons certification course. The class is taught by Raye Gunter.
Licensed to carry
Firearms allowed on campus with concealed weapons permit
By: Brent Jones
Posted: 10/29/09
There is an ongoing debate over gun control at LCC. Current regulations ban firearms on campus, yet individuals who obtain a government permit are exempt from this rule.
There has been a lot of discussion and debate over the topic says Operations Manager of Public Safety Katherine Vos. "Firearms are not allowed here," Vos said. "However, if you have a concealed weapons permit you're allowed to carry."
According to Vos, when it comes to obtaining a concealed weapons permit individuals undergo a strict evaluation to ensure the safety of the public. "We're not too concerned with those folks that have concealed weapons," Vos said. "They're generally outstanding citizens. They've been scrutinized through the process to even get that concealed weapons permit."
While individuals with permits are allowed to carry guns on camps LCC board policy dictates that public safety officers are not provided with firearms. Many officers have concealed weapons permits but are not allowed to carry on campus.
Many feel allowing concealed weapons on campus puts public safety officers at a disadvantage. They won't know where the weapons are and can't match the threat. According to Vos, the best tool at a public safety officer's disposal is their voice. Using your brain and trying to get people to do what you want may help prevent crimes from taking place to begin with.
The root of the concern is at night when public safety operates with a reduced staff. "There's drug deals, there's selling," Vos said. "We find a lot of bad characters of crimes going on."
Kate Barry, Executive Dean of Student Affairs understands that public safety officers have a lot to deal with on campus, but doesn't think most of those situations can be improved with a gun. "There are people who, for very legitimate reasons, feel like concealed weapons add a dimension of safety. I don't personally agree with that," Barry said. "But we follow the legal requirements."
Raye Gunter works at the Baron's Den shooting range and teaches a concealed carry class at LCC. As part of his curriculum he teaches students a range of things, including proper gun etiquette. "We teach all different types of handgun safeties," Gunter said. "Different types of handguns ... how they operate ... different types of ammunition for different purposes." Gunter has taught this LCC class for approximately seven years. It's offered Fall, Winter and Spring terms, and if attendance is high, summer classes are taught as well.
According to Gunter, areas with a concentration of licensed individuals have seen a decrease in crime rates. "In incidences where people used firearms for illegal acts ...something like 0.07 percent of those are actually licensed concealed weapons holders." Gunter said. "There are steps in place to protect the public at large."
© Copyright 2009 The Torch
***Note we will have to tell the campus police "got you covered" if an altercation takes place. I would support some kind of petition to get campus police legal CHL on campus. By all intents and purposes, they're just as trustworthy as the rest of us IF they have a CHL. I actually prefer they carry CHL instead of open carry so nutcases can't tackle and take.***
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