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La Center WA home shooting.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Hawaiian, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Since the prowler was outside when shot, this should be interesting to follow.

    LA CENTER, Wash. -- A homeowner shot a prowler early Tuesday morning in the 900 block of NW Pacific Highway, according to the Clark County sheriff's office.

    Police were dispatched about 12:30 a.m. on a report of a burglary in progress. While enroute, the victim told dispatchers that he shot the suspect outside the home, said Sgt. Alex Schoening.

    Arriving deputies found a man in the driveway who had been shot in the torso. He was taken to Peace Medical Center. A condition was not available.

    Detectives were interviewing the residents and processing the home for evidence, he said.
     
  2. Hardwood floor guy

    Hardwood floor guy Beaverton Active Member

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    poor burglar im sure it was his upbringing,he had a terrible life,was abused....it's not his fault and that terrible gun owner tried to hurt him.
    I can hear the bleeding heart liberals already.
    the fox12 reporter asked a witness"are you suprised a homeowner would have guns in their home around here?"
    what a question?how about "are you suprised someone would invade someones home and threaten their safety?"
     
  3. dcghostrider

    dcghostrider Portland Member

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    The reporter needs to remove her personal ideology about guns and gun owners, stop being the "Arm chair quarterback". Statements such as "Why he would shoot him" and "Did you know your neighbor owned guns" seem to be forcing a personal point. News as usual, complete BS!!
     
  4. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ACLU & OSHA will be right there citing the home
    owner for an un-documented work place hazzard,
    so the perp. can file for worker's comp.;)

    Jack...:cool:
     
  5. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I think this home owner may end up with a problem...But then again I was not there!!!
     
  6. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Has it hit the news yet? If so, give us a link.

    Jack...:cool:
     
  7. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, if the burgler had left the home already and posed no immediate threat when he was shot, the homeowner is hosed, but as others have said, I wasn't there. This will be interesting to follow.
     
  8. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    One must remember to always drag the body back in the house... I mean, err.... What he said!
     
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  9. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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  10. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Funny you mention that. Back in the mid 70's a buddy of mine's wife was being harrassed by an ex boyfriend that had just got out of the KS State Pen. He had threatened to kill her when he found out she had married.

    Long story short, they involved the police and a Shawnee County Sheriff told her pretty much the same thing. I happened to be there and he told her that if he broke into the house, be sure he's inside if you shoot him. He then handed her his business card and said "If he happens to fall outside the house, drag him inside and if you can't drag him inside, give me a call and I'll help you.". It was different times then.
     
  11. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Sgt. Fred Neiman says the shooting took place outside the home."

    Oh Oh.....Big problem !!!! :paranoid:

    Jack...:cool:
     
  12. kenjo

    kenjo Washougal Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I am not a lawyer, but...That is terrible advice. Dragging the body inside is tampering with evidence and is easily discovered during the investigation.
     
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  13. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't giving it as advice. Just relating what happened. That being said, I knew a lot of the cops in the area where I grew up and back in those days if a guy was a real scumbag the cops would sometimes "overlook" evidence that might favor the scumbag or hurt their victim. Not sayin' it's right, that's just the way it was.
     
  14. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    Contrary to popular belief, shooting someone outside of the home is not instant life in prison.

    The homeowner still has a right to investigate anything on their property, and IF there was a threat from the suspect...the owner should be fine.

    But as been said...don't know the facts yet.
     
  15. iusmc2002

    iusmc2002 Colville, WA Active Member

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    You're not a lawyer, nor do you have a sense of humor.....
     
  16. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Forensics will put such a foolish person behind bars for a looong time
     
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  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    It's still terrible advice.. modern forensics will nail your hide to the wall
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Suspect it will come down to (as I stated) forensics..

    What was the distance between them?

    Was the burglar armed, and with what?

    Was the burglar facing the homeowner or running away when shot? (IE what was the bullet path?)

    Is the homeowner of sound mind ?

    Did the homeowner spill his guts or lawyer up?

    Etc..
     
  19. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    The bullet path will tell a bit, but not everything, just the position of the person when the bullet entered the body...lateral and elevation.

    With the reaction time of an average person to see and recognize a threat, or possibly in this case the suspect threatened the owner then ran...by the time the owner may have fired, the bullet may show entrance in the side or even the backside of the suspect, but in reality, the owner will only remember himself being threatened face to face and then firing. In that small amount of reaction time, the suspect can easily turn or change directions.

    Way more to it than just looking at an entrance wound, and passing judgement that the owner shot the person in the back...if that even happened. This is why every piece of evidence must face scrutiny and is crucial.
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, it is the totality of the circumstances and what you explained about the bullet path and the "suspect" turning under fire has indeed happened several times in recent shootings I have read of