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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Burt Gummer, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    JackThompson Valley of the Demons Well-Known Member

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    Nice!
     
  3. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    You have the right to be beaten.

    At any time we can plant evidence that will be used against you in a court of law.

    You have the right to intimidated and lied to during any questioning.

    If you cannot afford a lawyer, an incompetent one will be provided for you at the expense of the 49% who actually pay taxes.
     
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    pchewn Beaverton Oregon USA Well-Known Member

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    Paper license tag on vehicle? (Temporary tag?)
     
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    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    mi nombre es Max Factor, maybe?
     
  6. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Yes, I realize that when you live under the thumb of a government that can throw you in a hole without charges or representation forever you have NO real rights.

    But sometimes, for the average Joe, and interaction with a traffic cop, a lot of this stuff still applies. That is why I posted it.

    When you are seen merely as an income source and not anything more.

    Since we are living in the USSA I would suggest that anyone who does not have a DVR camera in their car to go purchase one. Best <$100 you will spend in looking out for yourself and others.

    Camera:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/32GB-Mobius...rofessional_Video_Cameras&hash=item2a2e792ee4

    Mount:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Windshi...107?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257f9ca47b

    Camera Tripod-type base:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mounting-Ba...427?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2ecd8583

    Long Cord:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Meter-Car...797?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232c97cf05

    http://dashcamtalk.com/mobius/
     
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  7. JVK

    JVK West Active Member

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    Cutting a longer story short:

    A couple years ago I had an officer tell me to get out of my car after pulling me over. I asked him if i was under arrest. This caught him off guard, and we repeated this cycle until he said i was under arrest. That turned out to be the first of several of his lies

    Long story short, no tickets nothing. Plenty of BS in between.
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    I have found that being polite and respectful will get you out of 90% of the little things.
     
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  9. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    JVK you should have asked if you are being detained or are you free to go .... ask that over and over again .... if he/she says you are being detained (supposedly) he can only detain you based on suspicions and only for 15 mins if I understand correctly.

    I do agree with Mr Blond though most of the time.

    HOWEVER, if I am asked to get out of my car, I will, and will lock the doors with my remote as I do so. Never consent to anything, ever.

    That goes double for a cop at your home door. Step outside to talk to them - not at your doorway - and lock the door behind you. Make it clear you do not consent to a search.

    Please no 'I have nothing to hide' crap. You may have nothing to hide that you know of, but you should never hand power over to those who would love to do you harm.
     
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    JVK West Active Member

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    The definition of "little" certainly depends on opinion.

    I'm always immediately polite and respectful, however that should not be mistaken for being naive.

    An officer being polite can smooth out an encounter with an upset citizen.

    Likewise, a citizen being polite can smooth out an encounter with an upset officer :)

    If i was on foot i would've inquired about being detained, but on the side of a highway the detained part seems a little redundant.

    It is my (humble, idiot citizen) opinion of the law that an officer cannot remove a citizen from a vehicle w/out an arrest.
     
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    tunus PDX, United States Active Member

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    The moment they light you up with the police lights (and sirens), you are being detained. Asking again is redundant, but you have the right to ask for the reason and they must be able to articulate it.
     
  12. Working 4 U

    Working 4 U Eugene Active Member

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    So I am curious on the camera thing; Do you always have it on when your driving the car? or do you just keep it handy. What do you guys do?
     
  13. Provincial

    Provincial Near Salem, OR Well-Known Member

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    There are lots of Russian dashcam shots on the internet. Apparently, drivers there use them to defend against false liability claims, and probably against extortion from LEO's. This might be the future here, too.
     
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  14. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Future? Try now.

    Yes, they are always on while driving.

    Mine are set for motion detect when I am parked somewhere also.

    A 32g card holds 4+ hours of 1080p video. Loop recording so old files auto delete in favor of newer files. Draws very little power. Auto turns on/off with the car ignition if you set it up that way. Already saved me a $290 ticket in Tualatin.

    You can lower the resolution for longer recording times, but 1080p is very clear and wide like an HD TV.

    The Mobius is the best bang for the buck. It doesn't stand out therefore it doesn't attract a thief to steal it. Here is a downloadable file that will show just how clear the video is:
    https://app.dumptruck.goldenfrog.com/p/hB97JbTf3a/1080p30 Arndale.mov

    If you want a flashier unit - that includes GPS - meaning on playback of videos it will show your exactly location and speed, get this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPHXv8Hzj8

    GPS/mapping isn't a big deal unless you believe cops will falsely accuse you of speeding or exaggerate how fast you were going. (They never lie btw).

    [video=youtube;HQ0Tm9FFpKM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ0Tm9FFpKM[/video]
     
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