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King County Public Health Report on Gun Violence

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Sun195, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    The new push around gun control it to treat it like a "public health crisis". King County Public Health has put out a new report on this topic.

    A couple of thoughts:

    1) Looking at their trend chart for firearm deaths, it sure doesn't seem like there's a "crisis" - the trend seems to be declining.

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    2) This page points out that the majority of firearms related deaths are suicides (68%). If you're really looking at this from a "public health" perspective, I'm not sure how the mix of things being proposed (assault weapons bans, background checks, magazine bans, gun show loophole closure, etc - and, yes, I know these are loaded terms) do anything to prevent the bulk of firearm related deaths.

    3) And, on this page, it talks about homicide rates - we have basically 1/2 the rate of the US. King County is 2/100k, Washington is 1.5/100k while the US is 4/100k. Just in comparison - King County, NY (8.6), Los Angeles, CA (8.1) and Cook County, IL (11.1) all have significantly higher homicide rates while also having significantly more stringent gun control measures than King County, WA.

    4) This chart describes "gaps" in Washington State Firearms Laws compared to other states. Given the comparative homicide rates listed above, I'm not sure I see these as "gaps" and describing these differences as such seems to show bias that shouldn't be included if we're really thinking about his as public health/data-driven issue. (and, I know they aren't...)

    Anyway, just wanted to draw your attention to this report. Describing gun control in public health terms is the new front on this topic. KC Executive Constantine has been making a big deal about this. However, I think if you look carefully at the numbers, it doesn't suggest that there is any "crisis".
     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    This is the reason the "junk" studies by "think tanks" were defunded years ago. All they were trying to do was prove (with false statistics) that guns were the problem.
    Now that Obwan has ordered them to be funded again we can expect more attacks using false "statistics" to prove what ever they want.
     
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  3. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Sad thing is that this isn't a think tank - it's the public agency that's supposed to be making sure we don't die of Typhoid or food poisoning, not wasting time on this stuff. Maybe they should get back to their core mission and fix this problem.
     
  4. wolfcreek

    wolfcreek Redmond Member

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    Decades ago, NHTSA decided to apply epidemiology to preventing traffic fatalities. The result was shifting the focus away from driver competence and behavior, and towards mandated passive and then active safety devices in motor vehicles.

    I think this move to frame "gun violence" as a "health issue" has similar motivation - bring new agencies into play and lay the foundation for mandating "safer" guns and ignoring the distinction between criminal and lawful use.
     
  5. Heidland

    Heidland SW Washington Active Member

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  6. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Problem was the "think tank" was the CDC. Here's a thread http://www.northwestfirearms.com/le...eason-rebuttal-cdc-gun-violence-research.htmllinking to this article Public Health Pot Shots - Reason.com
     
  7. moose

    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

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    When you are out to prove your point, facts don't matter.

    People don't form opinions based on fact anyway, they are formed based on emotional appeal.
     
  8. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    A politician will "never waste a good crisis"...

    Peter