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Kel-Tec PMR-30

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Midnightfenrir, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. Midnightfenrir

    Midnightfenrir Seattle WA New Member

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    Anyone here have this unicorn? I've been curious about this for some time, and wanted to get opinions from people who have shot this first hand.

    Thanks,

    Dion
     
  2. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Don't own one but have shot one a bunch. Great idea, Expensive, unreliable with a strange trigger are the first words that come to mind.
     
  3. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    JLuck has nailed it. I've shot a lot of rounds through a friend's PMR 30. Really neat gun, but not one of KelTek's best efforts. It's very light, high capacity, has pleasant recoil and is surprisingly accurate given the weird-feeling trigger. The big problem that I have with it is the magazine. If the rim of the top round slips behind the rim of the next one down, you get a failure to feed. It doesn't even have to be the top round, but this seemed to be the most common failure with this particular gun. The failure is probably because of the double-stack design of the magazine. It gives it great capacity, but unless you load it just right, it will FTF on you sooner or later. I've seen some people post that they have never had this issue, but J and I are not the only ones to experience it. To me it's a lot of fun at the range, probably good for varminting, but not suitable for carry. If you're going to varmint with it, you might bring an extra mag for quick failure recovery.
     
  4. Rix

    Rix Tacoma Active Member

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    Numerous threads on this already.
    Mine has been flawless.
    Not one single problem in 400? rounds.
    The early ones seemed to have problems with accuracy and failures to load, etc.
    I can only speak about mine.... which is awesome.
    I paid a normal price (310 bucks) and the inflated prices are RIDICULOUS.
    Took a month to the day from the time I ordered it to get it.
     
  5. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's pretty easy to pay too much for a KelTek. I have a few of their products and have never paid over MSRP. Well, once, but that was for a feakin' KSG. Had to be done. :D
     
  6. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Got mine to the range today for the first time. Damn that thing was fun. Its as loud as my 357 and shoots flames out the front the size of a dinner plate. Even if I was shooting blanks it would have been fun.

    The mags were easy to load despite the reports to the contrary. No function problems.
     
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  7. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Hopefully the bugs are worked out now, I know the one I have played with is very ammo sensitive. Some works great and other stuff wont run at all. I don't remember what was what though.
     
  8. SVT-ROY

    SVT-ROY Tigard Resident Beretta guru

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    They run like champs, are loud as heck,and have a way cool factor. Had a front fiber tube fall out,had a new one in 2 days.

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  9. Midnightfenrir

    Midnightfenrir Seattle WA New Member

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    Man after reading all the replies I'm actually 99% sold
     
  10. jutbucks13

    jutbucks13 Beaverton Oregon Active Member

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    Man. I paid stupid money to get my hands on one of these, and I mean STUPID money! Having said that, the PMR is a freaking Blast! Light weight, accurate, high capacity, excellent crisp trigger once you get used to it, zero recoil. Feed it Hornady, it likes Hornady! I've not had a single misfeed in 600+ rounds, but i also haven't taken it to a full 30 round load, right around 22 rounds loaded you start nicking the case of the previously loaded round. The spring is tighter than I'd like to see, but I'm not a design engineer. Since 22 mag cases are so soft this will inevitably lead to a misfeed. Buy one and let the naysayers talk their garbage, while you're out having more fun than you really should be. Well worth the stupid money I paid for it, I don't regret the purchase one bit.
     
  11. Midnightfenrir

    Midnightfenrir Seattle WA New Member

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    If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get raped for....errr I mean paid for it :)
     
  12. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    You mean yours doesn't have a half mile of zero feel mushy creep and no warning of sear break? I hope that issue has been fixed.
     
  13. jutbucks13

    jutbucks13 Beaverton Oregon Active Member

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    Mine is a bit newer, I bought mine at the beginning of last summer. It was right after KelTec resolved the bullet tumble issue. It's a decent trigger for a polymer gun. It's not a $400 trigger job on an old Smith and Wesson 66. But it's not supposed to be. It breaks almost at the beginning of its pull and it's crisp, the reset is positive. And I have no problem staying on target with rapid fire. Like anything else you buy there is a break in period for the operator. But you may be impressed with how well they shoot now. Or maybe your too damn jaded to give another a shot. Either way I'm not disappointed with the purchase I made.
     
  14. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Not jaded here or I would not have asked the question. Shoot a earlier one and you will know exactly what I'm referring to. I'm no hater either. I love the concept but the ONE I have shot has the issues I talked about earlier, Hence the post.
     
  15. newthings

    newthings seaside, or New Member

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    I have one and put on the Burris mini red dot first thing. I had to buy the mounting plate. The sight is carried along with the slide in the auto load cycle. 9 good shots and down hill from there. Took it to the gunsmith and found the mass of the sight could not be compensated. It failed to pick up the next round. With the sight off, no problems.
    Good luck, Roy
     
  16. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    You could probably do one of those bridge mounts for a red dot

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  17. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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  18. newthings

    newthings seaside, or New Member

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    You can't exactly slip that one into a holster.
    I found the Burris was not very bright. At arms length, I had to have the pistol pointed nearly spot on to pick up the red dot. This was poor for fast target pick up. I like red dots. I have a full sized one on my Kel Tec Sub 2000. When closer to the eye, you have a larger viewing cone to find the target and red dot. The Burris/PMR was not a good fit for me.
    Roy