Kel-Tec donates Sub-2000s to Ukraine

[Kruel J]

That's really nice of them, but the Sub2000 as a "go to war" rifle? Huh.

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[Hueco]

Adrian Kellgren, director of industrial production of KelTec, holds a 9mm SUB2000 rifle, similar to ones being shipped to Ukraine, at their manufacturing facility on Thursday, March 17, 2022, in Cocoa, Fla. Kellgren's family-owned gun company was left holding a $200,000 shipment of semi-automatic rifles after a longtime customer in Odessa suddenly went silent during Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Fearing the worst, the company decided to put those stranded 400 guns to good use, sending them to Ukraine's nascent resistance movement.

Let me translate that for you:

KelTec, after shipping 200k (retail value) worth of goods to Ukraine customer, fails to secure payment from said customer. They chose to "donate" the rifles instead of paying to try to get them back, thus taking a small loss in trade for excellent PR.

They're going to file this cost under: Marketing.

 

[Member 34319]

Interesting, sounds like they made a good deed out of a bad deal.

Not an ideal weapon in a war, but if assigned or given out to citizens, it's better than nothing.

I won't lie, the S2K makes a great backpack/vehicle gun. If I had one of these fleeing my war torn country I'd feel a lot better with it over not having anything.

 

[Cardinal]

Good job, KT.

Get something into the hands of every Ukrainian citizen who chooses to resist.
Better than the single-shot Liberator .45ACP's built by General Motors and air-dropped by the OSS in WWII.

 

[Member 53328]

Atleast the Russians will end up with less than what we gave the Taliban….. hopefully.

 

[slimmer13]

And with that news, things just got a little more bleak for Ukraine.

 

[slimmer13]

Are they going to ship sometime in 2025?

 

[JustShoot]

It sounds really feel good great, but what guarantee that any of that Arms shipment will get into the hands of Unarmed Citizens ?
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[VinnieBoomBah]

The rifles were still in FLA so they could have kept them for the domestic market, but instead managed to fast track an export licence. Nice work!

 

[Alexx1401]

Would certainly NOT be my first choice for going into battle but, for citizens stranded and hiding? Hell why not. Super easy to teach them to use and VERY easy for them to pack around unseen.

 

[GrayGoose]

Did they get all the Mcarbo upgrades with them? If not, well dang sorry Ukraine.

 

[Ducati_Meister]

...But in the meantime, the gooberment here in WA, OR is doing the opposite, bent on screwing us of our rights per the 2A.

 

[Mike_M57]

The real truth is that Kel-Tec gave the Ukrainians the Sub-2000 in response to Hi-Point giving the Russians the Model 995.

Remember that episode of Star Trek where the Romulans gave the village people flintlock rifles? It's like that, but stupider.

There's probably an email about it on Hunter's laptop.

 

[JohnnyMac]

I don't think there is anything wrong at all that a lightweight, low recoil, easily pack-able firearm is being sent to citizens, of which many are women and/or elderly on the run that may or may not have ever shot a firearm but want to defend what is theirs. It's no AK, but it beats tossing Molotov cocktails at tanks from a burning building. I just hope they all pass their bgc's.

 

[ColeInOregon]

The sub 2k may not be a great battle rifle, but when you shift your thinking from the frontlines to a resistance it starts to make sense. Something light, foldable, easy to hide, that can quickly be deployed and if used properly the sub 2k owner should be able to upgrade to an AK platform in no time.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

A shot well placed from a "Sub-Par" , "Cheap" , "Not first choice" etc...rifle....
Can make someone just as dead as a well placed shot from a high end , top of the line rifle.
Andy

 

[Alexx1401]

The sub 2k may not be a great battle rifle, but when you shift your thinking from the frontlines to a resistance it starts to make sense. Something light, foldable, easy to hide, that can quickly be deployed and if used properly the sub 2k owner should be able to upgrade to an AK platform in no time.

THIS!
Long before the net I read a great article in one of the shooting rags about this. Guy was showing how to "prep" on the cheap for a situation like over there. He had bought some OLD but serviceable bolt rifle from a big chain store. Kind you used to see with Sunday ads for stuff like this they were almost giving away. He cleaned it up and said the idea would be he could use that rifle to take a better one off an enemy if need be. If they get into house to house, street fighting over there as I hear they may. An S2K can easily be used to ambush people with an AK and take the AK off their hands when they no longer need it.

 

[slimmer13]

A shot well placed from a "Sub-Par" , "Cheap" , "Not first choice" etc...rifle....
Can make someone just as dead as a well placed shot from a high end , top of the line rifle.
Andy

That is if it actually fires and you don't hear "click".

 

[Andy54Hawken]

That is if it actually fires and you don't hear "click".

Not quite my point.

Do not discount the danger from a rifle , any rifle in someone's hands , who wants to shoot you.
Andy

 

[partsed]

Did they get all the Mcarbo upgrades with them? If not, well dang sorry Ukraine.

This exactly, especially the feed ramp….