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I've been looking at these for a while now and finally ordered it. I know that there are some compromises with them, 223 bullet diameter and 224 bore, fast twist rate and all. My thinking is that I can let the kids learn on the AR rifle and pistol for future full power shooting. When it arrives I'll (almost immediately test it) give a review of it. My range has an indoor 22lr range open until 10:00pm every day so I think I'll be burning some of those federal black boxes through it.