PS:Footage from outside Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, shows parents screaming at law enforcement to enter the building. It is unclear when the footage was shot, and if the gunman was dead.www.dailymail.co.uk
'Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything': Parents frustrated with 'unprepared' police outside Texas school shooting debated storming the building THEMSELVES as gunman holed up inside for 90 minutes
MORE on the link.
- Footage has emerged showing the panic-stricken parents of the Texas schoolchildren screaming at law enforcement to enter the school
- It was unclear whether the footage was shot during the shooting, or after the event when the gunman was already dead
- Questions are being asked as to why it took 90 minutes between the first 911 call and the gunman being shot dead
MORE came out on Wednesday and on Wednesday evening.
Timelines show 60 to 90 minutes or so. I have NO clue what is accurate there or not since I was NOT there in person.
The Facebook garbage posts came out as some of you already know on Wednesday too. When I posted many pages back that information was NOT discovered and/or released yet but those other links were available.
The people who wrote that the Mother of the murderer was going to be evicted from the Grandmother's other house is true. Apparently the Mother is a drug addict.
NO news anywhere as I previously wrote about the Father of the murderer. Maybe she had no clue which man got her pregnant if she had multiple sex partners? Beats me.
The Grandfather was already mentioned in THIS thread and he is a felon. What he did for his past crime - I have no clue. But he did STATE on record/film and in transcripts that he would have turned in his grandson due to him not being allowed to have GUNS INSIDE of his home. So he would be protecting his butt and doing the right thing according to the 'law'. Plus he stated that he did not like guns and all of the news about shooting and crime.
The downfall of the young man including more news on Wednesday about his self mutilation - cutting his face has been backed up. Plus the OTHER stuff that I wrote previously before the cutting came out in the news. Old friends and new friends and people who STOPPED being his friend due to his erratic and changing behavior.
I am shocked that the Grandmother who got shot in the FACE is alive. What type of head wound she had or maybe the bullet or bullets grazed her but I read that it was in her face and basically her forehead. I have NO clue about the exact details of that since I did not seriously HUNT it all down in national and international news online.
Here the GRANDMOTHER TOOK IN THE MURDERER when the Mother did not want him around and he SHOOTS her! She gave him a place to stay! And the POLICE had been around the young man and the Mother many times due to their fights and other salami.
IT TAKES A SPECIAL KIND OF EVIL (Sane or insane calculating EVIL!) to shoot his Grandmother who was trying to help him and maybe discipline him for his own good. Plus she even took him out for his birthday!
And it is even a WORSE TYPE OF EVIL, a whole different level, and a preplanned sicko piece of pathetic DNA to CHOOSE to go in and MURDER LITTLE CHILDREN, teachers, etc. They still have MANY WOUNDED from what I read in several papers online. SO add that salami to the list!
The TEXAS radio station that I mentioned many pages back had on the complete Governor's news conference plus the boob tube showed some of it.
There are several LINKS on You Tube if you want to see the complete thing. It shows another flip flopper there - Francis aka Beto. Beto = fake name for a fake person. That has been mentioned here by a couple of posters.
A man in this thread asked about the shooter buying guns legally and not having a DL. He did not own a car and he had NO driver's license. That is TRUE. He must have had a TEXAS state id card.
He did buy his guns LEGALLY. Two rifles. I put up a link for them previously.
He did buy his ammunition but I thought that he bought that locally and NOT online (Someone said it was bought ONLINE on this thread.) but I could be wrong there. I did NOT study where he bought the ammo. So if he bought it ONLINE - did he have his OWN card? It must have been shipped pretty FAST if you look at the time frame from a to z. I thought it was a LOCAL AMMO purchase.
A person can buy a gun with a State ID card. When I bought guns - I used my DL. I no longer drive but when I stopped driving - I made sure that I had my State ID card asap. I needed my State ID card for all of my misc. financial, banking, and many other purposes in life.
The first victim names in the Robb Elementary School shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is a fourth grade teacher.heavy.com
May the wounded heal. May the dead rest in peace.
Condolences and prayers are being said for all concerned.
Old Lady Cate
Horrifying! And the reaction of perpetual candidate Kennedy-look-alike Robert O'Rourke, the wanna-be Hispanic, disgusting and wicked... God be with all the families and folks shattered by this act, may the Almighty grant them peace in their time of sorrow. The shooter, Salvadore Ramos, a disaffected non-white resident of the Uvalde area was slain by police at the scene. A PITY that he wasn't taken ALIVE! Many questions might have been answered.
Whatever our feelings in the matter, we all are dependent on government for day-to-day safety. That's why we have a Constitution granting power to, and limiting the powers of the Federal govt, and outlining it's duties. That's why we have police, military, firemen, border control and a host of other things. A world or a country without law and order soon descends into a Somali-type anarchic situation, where only the strong make the rules and everyone else is weak and potential prey.“Safe” I will never depend on the Government for anything. Especially for the safety of my family and I.
Teachers didn’t sign up for being security. It’s an easy argument to make and defend. If my employer told me in addition to my normal job duties, I’d also need to undergo security training and be responsible for that, I’d tell them to take a hike and hire a security guard.That is why many folks push to Arm the teachers or office staff. I am for it and there are many groups that do offer free training and even equipment for them to do so.
Or we could just ban guns you know like we did with drugs and we even went as far as creating an amendment to ban Alcohol and it worked out so well it caused a crime wave and the 1934 NFA act before it was repealed.
Not one of those laws on the books has slowed down any crime in my opinion so until you can change the hearts and minds of folks to do good and not evil it will continue.
Not entirely, but there is something different about the last several years compared to when I was younger. I get being unaware as a child, and it's only been the last few decades that we have has instantaneous news.Can’t fix that human condition to commit murder, remember Cain killed Abel with a stone. The problem is the heart….
The internet allows disturbed people to find other disturbed people a thousand miles away, so they can find support and audience for their stupid ideas.My school had a "Shooting Club", hunting rifles displayed in pickup truck back windows out in the parking lot and my first pistol was purchased right out in the open during 9th grade math class.
Nobody would have dreamed someone would start shooting at students.
Something changed in the last four decades and it certainly is not how a gun works.
But if you wanted to, should you be prohibited?Teachers didn’t sign up for being security. It’s an easy argument to make and defend. If my employer told me in addition to my normal job duties, I’d also need to undergo security training and be responsible for that, I’d tell them to take a hike and hire a security guard.
Nobody is forcing anybody to do any thing. It is a volunteer program as it should be the same with a cop or military, no one forced them to put on the uniform they chose to do it on their own.Teachers didn’t sign up for being security. It’s an easy argument to make and defend. If my employer told me in addition to my normal job duties, I’d also need to undergo security training and be responsible for that, I’d tell them to take a hike and hire a security guard.
Exactly. This is the real issue. Focusing on the gun is misdirection that will not lead to a solution. The focus needs to be on how people are being raised in America. Which means the unwelcome message, the true bottom line is this: parents are the heart of the problem.Something changed in the last four decades and it certainly is not how a gun works.
And were I a teacher I'd be in the first group of volunteers.Nobody is forcing anybody to do any thing. It is a volunteer program as it should be the same with a cop or military, no one forced them to put on the uniform they chose to do it on their own.
Its all Voluntary.