Just asking

[Just Jim]

I am the kind of person who thinks words have a literal meaning and when you speak or post them we both know what they mean. What does the following sentence mean to you when a person says they bought this rifle in the 90s.


"it has 200 rounds or less through it,looks new."


I am just trying to determin if my standards are too picky compared to you.

jj

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[SargentMac]

I would expect it to look new, as if it were purchased last week. Completely covered in oil, with a nice clean bore. "Looks great for being bought in the 90's" is more reasonable if it's in good condition but shows it's age.

 

[Just Jim]

So if it had been home gunsmithed and the bolt jewled is that considered "like New"?

jj

 

[MrNiceGuy]

I'd expect it to look like a new gun that's had a few hundred rounds fired through it.

Very few scratches, no rust, decently clean.

It's very clearly not new, so I wouldnt expect it to look like it's straight off the assembly line.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

So if it had been home gunsmithed and the bolt jewled is that considered "like New"?

jj

I dont know how well it was done, but maybe he was unaware that it was a bubba job. Maybe he thought it was factory?

 

[Just Jim]

so if the gun was dirty with the dirt in the grip checkering and the magazine well showed the gun was shot far more than 200rnds is that considered "like new"?

jj

 

[Just Jim]

I dont know how well it was done, but maybe he was unaware that it was a bubba job. Maybe he thought it was factory?

He told me he did it himself. is it still considered a new gun?

jj

 

[Just Jim]

OK OK I am gonna fess up, I am just too picky

jim

 

[MrNiceGuy]

so if the gun was dirty with the dirt in the grip checkering and the magazine well showed the gun was shot far more than 200rnds is that considered "like new"?

jj

It doesnt sound malicious, but I'd say it's starting to sound like the seller might have been a little overzealous in his description.

 

[Just Jim]

It doesnt sound malicious, but I'd say it's starting to sound like the seller might have been a little overzealous in his description.

You might have thought differently if you spent the time and gas to go look at the gun. LOL LOL

jj

 

[MrNiceGuy]

He told me he did it himself. is it still considered a new gun?

jj

I'm really trying to play devils advocate here... but you keep making it harder.

No, if he jeweled the bolt himself then it should definitely be in the description. If it were factory, that'd be a different story.

 

[Just Jim]

I'm really trying to play devils advocate here... but you keep making it harder.

No, if he jeweled the bolt himself then it should definitely be in the description. If it were factory, that'd be a different story.

Well I must be the devil and way too picky. I just kinda fail to understand how two people can look at the same gun and come up with different terms for "like new".

Thanks for the feedback, I will have my family duely chastise me for being too picky.

jj

 

[atypicalparkie]

ah well, there's "too picky" or "being realistic" and there's "truth in advertising", which is too often overlooked by peeps selling stuff Last gun I bought was cosmetically 'like new' externally, but the innards looked like the original owner had mixed cosmoline with road tar & used a turkey baster to pump it full. Then baked the gunk on at 400 degrees...Oh well, it got me a crazy good deal. Nothing wrong with being picky with your $$ JJ! But for sure, dirt in the checkering, gunked internals, obvious mag well use showing more than 200 rds= not 'like new'! It's a drag to take time & gas to find out something is totally different than what a seller has led you to believe. I'd agree, 'like new' means... well, like it came out of the box from the shop.

 

[Mason3379]

There were pics of the rifle showing the jewled bolt. SO tell me how you can be upset?? You should be mad at yourself for not paying attention to the pics. I ended up getting the rifle for a buddy who is planning to to some custom work to it anyway. The barrel is gonna come off and a new stock will be put on it. It came with a red dot(a cheap one) and three butler creek mags and one factory. For $180 dollars it is a pretty good deal for the old aluminum trigger group.
I am sorry to rain on your parade but you really should pay attention to pics before you bad mouth a seller. To him it was like new, low round count and the gun was not in bad shape. No need to beat a guy up because you feel you wasted the gas when the pics show clearly the bolt.

Dan

 

[Mason3379]

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/showthread.php?t=47951


Here is the post with the pic.

 

[Just Jim]

There were pics of the rifle showing the jewled bolt. SO tell me how you can be upset?? You should be mad at yourself for not paying attention to the pics. I ended up getting the rifle for a buddy who is planning to to some custom work to it anyway. The barrel is gonna come off and a new stock will be put on it. It came with a red dot(a cheap one) and three butler creek mags and one factory. For $180 dollars it is a pretty good deal for the old aluminum trigger group.
I am sorry to rain on your parade but you really should pay attention to pics before you bad mouth a seller. To him it was like new, low round count and the gun was not in bad shape. No need to beat a guy up because you feel you wasted the gas when the pics show clearly the bolt.

Dan

Picture posted was of only one side of gun and picture was of poor quality. You are right I should have noticed the jeweling and asked the poster. I am glad you got the gun and you are willing to spend alot of money to make it better. As for bad mouthing I was asking others their opinion as was I being too picky and I got theirs and yours. Obviously someone who is going to rebuild the gun wouldn't care about the flaws.

I too was buying for a friend but would not buy this gun with his hard earned money, he is a good friend. I did manage to buy a perfect stainless today from another seller with four mags and it cost $175. My friend will be happy.

jj

 

[Mason3379]

You bought the stainless one from near where I live. If my buddy wanted stainless I would have gotten that one. As for having to spend a ton of money? I am not sure where that comes from? There is nothing wrong function wise with the rifle. I always tear down the rugers as it is simple to do and easy to clean. As far as money, I have a hogue stock that I got for $25 and he is gonna get a barrel and have a fun shooter.
If you buddy wanted a like new, I can understand. But I clean a gun right when I get it anyway so a little dirt don't hurt.
Glad you found what you were looking.

Dan

 

[Just Jim]

And I am glad you are happy with what you bought. I freely admit too, I am way too picky. No sense people getting offended because I am.

jj

 

[Mason3379]

Not that I am not picky. Just depends on what I am doing with the firearm. ALL of my guns are nice and I am sure you would have no issue purchasing from me. Just sayin'.

 

[Just Jim]

Not that I am not picky. Just depends on what I am doing with the firearm. ALL of my guns are nice and I am sure you would have no issue purchasing from me. Just sayin'.

We can be friends when you get ready to selleace: Just joking

Later

jj