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Islamic No-go zones looming for America Unless you all fight to stop it NOW.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by U201491, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    No-go zones looming for America


    Islam experts: No-go zones looming for America
    Back Jindal's view non-assimilation is trouble because Muslims 'supremacist at core'
    Published: 9 hours ago

    The “no-go zones” in some Western nations, where law enforcement has lost control because of the influence of Islamic law, are coming to America.

    That’s according to several Islam experts interviewed by WND who believe the kind of Muslim enclaves that have developed in Europe due to a lack of assimilation will eventually arise in the U.S. as the Muslim population grows.

    The contention that “no-go” zones exist is controversial, as evidenced by the widespread ridicule that arose when an analyst said in a Fox News interview shortly after the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attack in Paris that the major English city of Birmingham was a “no-go” zone itself.

    The analyst apologized, but only for exaggerating his point, not for asserting “no-go” zones exist.

    As WND reported, the government of France has identified 751 Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, that the state does not fully control, citing Middle East foreign policy expert Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum.

    The zones are enclaves where Muslim immigrants have chosen not to assimilate, and law enforcement has lost some degree of control.

    Republican Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal recently told Fox News interviewer Neil Cavuto that the zones are inevitable in America if the country doesn’t insist that immigrant Muslims assimilate.

    He said Islamists are setting up their own culture within the United States “to overturn our culture.”

    “We need to recognize that threat,” he insisted.

    He said there are neighborhoods that could be defined as a no-go zone.

    “You can call them whatever term you want, but absolutely there are neighborhoods, we have communities of people that don’t want to integrate or assimilate,” he said.

    See the interview:

    Islam analyst and expert Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch told WND the zones “aren’t here.”

    “But they’re coming as the Muslim population grows,” he warned. “We already see areas such as Dearborn, Michigan: It isn’t a no-go zone — police don’t fear to enter there and non-Muslims aren’t menaced for non-adherence to Shariah norms — but police did the bidding of the Muslim community a couple of years ago and arrested some Christian missionaries solely for the crime of preaching to Muslims. A Shariah crime, not a crime according to any U.S. law.”

    David Yerushalmi of the American Freedom Law Center, which has fought legal battles over the Dearborn disputes, said there aren’t any no-go zones in American right now, but Dearborn comes close.

    There, evangelical Christians were attacked with rocks and bottles by a Muslim crowd for talking about their faith on public property during an annual Arab festival. When police arrived, they ordered the Christians to leave or face arrest.

    Several legal cases over the incident have been resolved in favor of the Christians, but a major one, handled by AFLC, is still under way. It has been granted the highly unusual step of a hearing before a full federal appeals court, which previously denied the Christians’ claims.

    Yerushalmi said there have been times when first responders have declined to go into certain riot areas for a time because it “would incite the crowd to more violence.”

    He said there aren’t the numbers of Muslims in the U.S. population at the moment to form such no-go-zones.

    “However, you have demographics which are changing,” he warned.

    Islam analyst Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs not only believes the zones are coming, she’s already prepared a strategy to fight them.

    “There aren’t large-scale no-go zones here as there are in Europe, but they are coming, because Islam by its very nature is against assimilation into a kaffir (non-Muslim) society. It is supremacist at its core – Islam must dominate and not be dominated,” she told WND.

    “So while Muslims have assimilated here to a greater degree than they have in Europe, there are growing Muslim areas in some cities (Dearborn, Newark, etc.) and these will continue to grow. Then there are rural Muslim camps where firearms training and other alarming things have been reported,” she said.

    She asserted the U.S. should end immigration from Muslim countries.

    Geller argued “there is no reliable way to tell a jihadist or jihadi sympathizer from a ‘moderate.’”

    She called on Muslim groups in the U.S. “to renounce the aspects of Islam that contradict constitutional freedoms, or face sedition charges if they try to advance those elements.”

    Geller said that when the U.S. Muslim population “grows to the levels we see in European countries, we will face exactly the same thing that Europe is experiencing now.”

    Her 18 points to address the problem include:

    • Profiling of Muslims at airports and in hiring in professions in which national security and public safety could be compromised.
    • Investigating foreign funding for mosques in the U.S.
    • Watching for mosques where violence is advocated.
    • Including an accurate depiction of Islam and its violent doctrines in school textbooks.
    • Stopping foreign aid for countries using Shariah, or Islamic law.
    • Denying citizenship to those who support Shariah.
    Onetime Muslim terrorist Walid Shoebat has posted a piece online by Keith Davies explaining that no-go zones in the U.K. are areas where even serious crimes are not reported, because they are handled by Shariah rather than British law enforcement.

    “Numerous murders and rapes are not reported in these no-go zones because of local justice systems,” he wrote.

    WND reported last year that President Obama had thanked Muslims for “building the very fabric of our nation” and claiming they were in part responsible for “the core of our democracy.”

    But his comments didn’t align with statements from some of the Founders.

    For example, in 1801, President Jefferson sent the Navy to the Barbary Coast to stop Islamic pirates’ reign of terror on U.S. merchant ships. Jefferson read the Quran to understand what was motivating the pirates, and he learned that the Muslim holy book commanded the faithful to “plunder and enslave” non-Muslims.

    In 1814, after Tripoli broke its truce and began attacking U.S. ships again, former President John Adams wrote Jefferson a letter advising that Islam’s founder was “a military fanatic.” In another writing, he condemned Islamic law as “contemptible.”

    His son and future president, John Quincy Adams, went further, arguing that the essence of Islam is “violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.” He suggested the Quran’s commands to fight and conquer other lands “in the cause of Allah” were at odds with democracy, peace and the Judeo-Christian ethic on which America was founded.

    “The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Muhammad is the prophet of God,” he added. “The vanquished may purchase their lives by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Muslim creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike by fraud or by force.”

    Amid the controversy over the recent Islamic terrorism in Paris, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo said she may sue Fox News for its references to no-go zones in the city.

    Pipes said that as far back as 2006 that France’s Sensitive Urban Zones ranged from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassonne to 12 in the heavily Muslim city of Marseilles. Most towns and cities have at least one, he said.

    Pipes regularly has updated a 2006 post citing references by politicians, civil leaders and journalists to “no-go zones” in Britain, Germany and Sweden, as well as France.

    Soeren Kern, senior fellow of the Gatestone Institute, wrote in 2011, “Islamic extremists are stepping up the creation of ‘no-go’ areas in European cities.”

    “Many of the ‘no-go’ zones function as microstates governed by Islamic Shariah law,” he wrote. “Host-country authorities effectively have lost control in these areas and in many instances are unable to provide even basic public aid such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services.”

    And Spencer noted that in 2002, the New York Times’ David Ignatius wrote of France that “Arab gangs regularly vandalize synagogues here, the North African suburbs have become no-go zones at night, and the French continue to shrug their shoulders.”

    Jindal also referenced the zones in a speech in London last weekend.

    He said in his prepared remarks that “in the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Shariah law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home.”

    “It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so-called ‘no-go zone,’” Jindal said. “The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom.”

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, a “civil rights” group founded as a front by the Muslim Brotherhood, according to the FBI, expressed disappointment in what it called “Muslim bashing.”


  2. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Fox news was threatened with a lawsuit for falsely reporting paris had muslim only zones.
    Well there's no laws that say it and they don't publically announce there is, but when you ask the citizens of those areas they say there is.
    One of those if we don't talk about it, it's not happening.
    Well you could say the same argument for the inner city gang controlled areas of LA, chicago, detroit, etc.

    I feel they should just target those places and use them for bomb drop practice.
    Treat evil for what it is
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  3. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    We have no go zones here already, I no go to Furgustan:D
  4. SOrez

    SOrez SOR Active Member

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    I already have no go zones Oakland, L.A., Chicago etc.
  5. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I just hired this guy at work that was in the coast gaurd out of oakland.
    He said he got back from a trip and stopped at a jack in the box in oakland. Bulletproof windows covering the cashiers and such.
    Him and his wife were in line and he said a deep voice from behind him yelled " hey white boy this a black jack in the box, you betta leave before you get hurt"
    He said he turned around and found 5 or 6 large black men with not so friendly looks on their faces. He said he was with his wife so he just left immediately.

    If that had been at night it may have turned out differently.
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  6. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    In my career traveling days, an associate and I arrived in downtown Dallas TX about 6 hours early for our first function. We thought we would roll around the area around the hotel a bit, since we assumed it would be a nice area like Portland, Austin, Seattle downtowns.

    We got about 6 blocks and 2 black dudes yelled at us and said " Hey you white honkey mfer -this is our street and you best get your white mfing bubblegum*s out of here."

    I immediately stepped to the curb, waved for a taxi, and went back to the hotel. Never set foot on those streets again for 4 days. Took taxis everywhere to our trade show, watched a drug dealer knife another one, watched the cops do a jump out on some drug dealers and beat the shi* out of them, (that was actually pretty cool to see). An absolute sewer shi@hole of a town.

    My ex bro in law worked in a mortuary in Oakland. Lived above the mortuary, never hardly set foot outside. Automatic garage doors, drove the first call car and coachs inside to load and unload. They lasted about 6 months there and left.
  7. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Was in Houston and they have an area called Greenspoint but all the locals call it gunspoint.:eek: Was warned to not leave the hotel after dark which was funny cause they were prepping us to contract in Iraq. It was just about the same over there as here, you just watched where you were going.:D
  8. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    As far as I'm concerned ALL of Portland is a "no-go" zone . . .
    It's always a good feeling when I pass Troutdale on my way back to Eastern Oregon.

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  9. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    My old manager went to a wedding on the southside chicago him and his wife took the train and then walked about a 1/4 mi to the church. He said it was like walking through a wasteland.

    After the wedding his friend asked where his car was he said they took the train and he said his friend cursed him out for 20 minutes about how he can't go that way at night, how crazy he was and lucky to be alive for going through there in the day time. Said if he went that way at night he would not live to see the next day.

    Some places are just cesspools.
    I heard similiar stories from friends about watts and detroit.
  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    What we need is a no go zone that the criminals stay away from:D
  11. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    One of my consulting gigs took me to Memphis one time. I followed my directions to the company's shop, and all I saw was broken down cars, trash piled on lots, trash burning, jive aqq's hanging out slinging dope,just a complete shi@hole. Even saw a short police pursuit.

    I asked the foreman where the office and boss were, and he said at his house about 7 miles away. He never comes down here. That was an everlasting impression in my career, that was over 12 years ago and I remember every detail clearly.
  12. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I had moved to kentucky with my wife for a time and had an opportunity to take a job with my company here in memphis and saw it was the murder capital of the nation or 2nd and thought heck no.

    Funny things we went to the kentucky derby when we lived there. Amazing how many millions of dollars change hands there and all around the track is complete ghetto.
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