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Is this a good choice for a .22 ?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by LyleLovett666, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. LyleLovett666

    LyleLovett666 Seattle Active Member

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    I have a new 10/22 on the way and would like a scope for said rifle. This is my choice.Have I made an acceptable choice? Just a plinker. No hunting. Simmons .22 Mag Truplex Reticle Adjustable Objective Rimfire Riflescope with Rings, 3-9x32mm (Matte)
     
  2. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yes, that'll do.
     
  3. WebRat

    WebRat Portland Oregon Member

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  4. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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  5. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    I recommend the Nikon ProStaff 4x32 Rimefire Scope.

    It's $109.95, but very clear optics.
     
  6. U201492

    U201492 Well-Known Member

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    Putting a scope on a .22 rifle is like putting lipstick on a pig. It make look better but it's still useless. Semi-quoting Jack O'Conners "The Rifle Book" (1966 edition) he goes in depth considering this question. The problem is; the .22LR is an accurate 100 yard rifle. Using standard velocity bullets the trajectory should be dead on at 20 yards, +3.5" or so at 65 yards, back on IP at 100 yards and down something like -12" at 120 yards. A rifle scope can give the appearance of flattening that trajectory out a bit to 120 yards, but the .22LR simply isn't a long range cartridge in spite of its warning printed that says "CAUTION: RANGE OF 1.5 MILES POSSIBLE"

    Scopes break. They get knocked out of alignment. The nitrogen in the scope escapes after a few years- and you've paid good money thats now gone.

    The best learning experience is to go hunting, have your scope fog up, take a cigarette lighter to warm the barrel to clear the lenses on the INSIDE of the scope, watch the deer who's looking at you like the village idiot, then lean on the trigger where you've forgotten to take it off "safe", then the deer will laugh at you as it strolls away behind a thicket and walks away while you scream in anger.

    Therefore I suggest a good set of rugged open "ring" sights like on the military's M4. They're relatively inexpensive at $50ish dollars. If you drop the rifle, odd's are good it's kept it's "zero". They won't fog up, and they'll be effective at 100 yards.

    I write this because the magic term is "It's just a plinker. No hunting".

    Something like this: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_..._sku=SPM9861398618&sid=IDx20131030xMPAPxCPA28
     
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  7. WebRat

    WebRat Portland Oregon Member

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    That's the one I currently have my eye on. It seems like it's the middle of the road from this one web site comparisons - Compared: Rimfire Riflescopes from Sightron, Leupold, Burris, Weaver, Nikon, Simmons and Bushnell (2)

    Another web site I found while looking for a scope to fit my 10/22:
    #1 Order 5mg cialis online - survivalcache.com - They make a mention of the Simmons Truplex scope.
     
  8. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    Your link was my biggest influence when I bought mine. Excellent review.

    I also looked hard at the Bushnell 4x32 for $36.99. I was buying for a Marlin 795, and I had some misgivings about buying a Nikon scope that cost the same as the rifle I was putting it on, but in the end I went with the Nikon.
     
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  9. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    A few years ago I was shooting a Marlin 60 with peep sights at an Appleseed event. At some point we were instructed to switch rifles with a neighbor. My neighbor's rifle had a scope, and even though our target was only 25 yards away (reduced in size to simulate 400 yards), I was amazed at how much better my 60-year old eyes could see the target.

    After I returned home I immediately bought a scope, and I have no regrets.

    I liked my peep sights, and I still have a set on a .30-.30, but they cost as much as my Nikon rimfire scope.
     
  10. U201492

    U201492 Well-Known Member

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    At 53, I have similar problems. But consider this- what do you call "accurate"? A battle rifle from 1700 to 1950 was happy to put 5 shots in a 12" wide target at 70 to 80 yards. From 1950's to 1980ish to put a bullet into a 12" wide by 30" high target out to 800 yards was considered acceptable accuracy. Now you've got unlimited rail guns that can slap 10 shots at 100 yards with POINT 2" grouping- they actually have to scroll paper behind the target to ensure the shooter fired the full 10 shot string. Since it takes 3 years for a barrel to be made, shooters will consider a barrel shot out at 1,000 rounds and will rethread/head space to keep throat erosion down hoping it'll last the whole season.

    The average hunter who buy's 20 cartridges for his blunderbuss per year should- but usually doesnt- fire 3 shots to make sure his first shot from a cold barrel is keeping it's zero. Then for grin's and yucks might shoot a few more shots for fun, and take the last 6 cartridges out in the woods for hunting. For the average hunter, the size of the heart and lung area is considered fatal- a 5" or so sized target at reasonable ranges out to 300 yards. Or the NRA 1,000 yard "X" ring is what? 4", 6" across and the final 10 shooters out of the 3,000 that started out is based on how often they miss that bulls?

    *Shrugs* Whoever invented "Buckhorns" should be severely beaten- the time you need the most light is to see the target and the "Buckhorn's" hide it. Whoever invented "semi-buckhorns" only need's to be moderately beaten.
     
  11. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    More accurate than me ... I didn't get "The Patch" at Appleseed. :p
     
  12. DBL-TAP

    DBL-TAP OLYMPIA Member

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    nice
     
  13. Silver Hand

    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    There are so many Leupold M-8 4X scopes out there for a few dollars more or less than a new scope. You would never have to worry about a problem with the scope as they and all Leupold scopes have a lifetime warranty. My eyes are over 60 years old. My Ruger 10/22 is over forty years old and has had many scopes mounted to it's current Leupold bases and rings. If you sell the rifle you can get back almost every dollar you pay for an older, Clear and Well taken care of used Leupold scope. Just take your time and buy it right.
    I would never have a .22 rim fire rifle without the advantage of magnification and light gathering capability. Why squint with iron sights, when by not doing so with a scope you can see the whole picture clearer and larger, especially at the range of 100 yards! Then add the rainy and cloudy days you just might not have enjoyed as much without the scope.
    Silver Hand
     
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  14. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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  15. U201492

    U201492 Well-Known Member

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    *Said with a straight face* I suspect with a name like "Bacchus" it was more the wine doing the shooting than you,,,,,**pun intended**
     
  16. U201492

    U201492 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry Riot- I purchased laser grips for my CZ75B and Opticsplanet charged me over $320 and I found them at another web-sight for $240. When I pointed out the $80 discrepancy and showed them my receipt their response was "Thank You for the money". While they have a great selection (In fact, it could be argued they have a most excellent selection) I'd triple check their prices and shop somewhere else- that is, use them as an online catalog and see if you can find the specific item elsewhere cheaper.
     
  17. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    I usually use OpticsPlanet for their reviews, but a lot of times (at least three times in this thread) their prices were almost half that of listed. I just didn't want anyone thinking that in this thread, the prices posted were the best to be had for the sights recommended.

    I also won't shop at botach.com, cheaperthandirt.com or sportsmansguide.com unless absolutely necessary (as in they are the only one's that sell what I'm looking for). Why? Burned by them- same as you with OpticsPlanet.

    Just trying to save some people money is all...
     
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  18. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    clambo Vancouver, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Trail,

    You are my favorite chat buddy here......but I didnt understand a single part of your first paragraph. There were and are many, many pre 1950 Krags, Springfields, Enfields, and Garands that will shoot as well as anything made today at a far greater distance than 70 or 80 yds. Further down I have never heard of a barrel that takes 3 years to manufacture and is willingly discarded at 1000 rds. I have wasted barrels in around 1000 rds but they were not of any military caliber. Hot .264 Win. Would be one example. Really, really hot 7mm Rem. Mag. another. Bring a rock to open the bolt hot.
     
  20. Kruejl

    Kruejl Hillsboro Moderator of the Coriolis effect Staff Member Gold Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Not the worst way to spend a pair of $20 bills.