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Is there an effective defense against a "flash bang?"

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Gunner3456, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    I think it's called a flash bang. It's like a grenade?

    If the zombies come, is there any equipment which would protect against it such as welding goggles and shooting ear muffs?
     
  2. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Close your eyes, open your mouth, cover your ears.
     
  3. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

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    Welding goggles and ear protection! You're good to go! ;)
     
  4. el gringo loco

    el gringo loco PDX Member

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    Not if it's used properly. If deployed correctly, you shouldn't have enough warning to make the preparations necessary to effectively combat the effects. The fact that the grenade just landed should just be registering when it goes off.
     
  5. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    OK, suppose you're already wearing hearing protection. A window breaks. Is closing your eyes enough, and what's this about opening your mouth?

    What about my welding goggles that don't get dark until there's a flash of light?

    The last time someone told me to open my mouth and close my eyes, I woke up with my tonsils missing. That was a long time ago but I never forgot that hospital. :)
     
  6. Gunner69

    Gunner69 Hillsboro Member

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    Opening your mouth prevents the shockwave from potentially rupturing your eardrums due to the over pressure. Think clearing your ears when diving. It also help maintain your equilibrium and balance by not overpressuring the middle ear.
    I will 2nd El Gringo though if deployed properly you have about 1-2seconds from the time you hear the window break until your world gets REALLY LOAD and REALLY bright.
     
  7. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    So if you were already wearing good shooting muffs and self-darkening welding goggles you might be OK? The goggles are fast - fast enough to protect you from the welding arc. ??
     
  8. el gringo loco

    el gringo loco PDX Member

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    Remember that, although the effects can last longer, the intent of the flash bang is to buy the user 5-30 seconds of extra time. The flash bang is intended to disorient an opponent just long enough to gain tactical superiority, not to put them out of the fight for an extended period of time. The five seconds that you use to hit the deck, cover up, shake off the shock wave of the blast, and remove the welding helmet and look around, just gave your attacker enough time to breach the door and and take the room. You are still reacting to your opponents moves and, therefore, at a serious disadvantage.
     
  9. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    OK, but you don't have to remove the welding helmet or goggles. They self darken and immediately lighten - fast enough to weld with. This is so you can see your work until and unless you strike an arc. With those and shooting ear muffs, why would you have to do anything?
     
  10. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    ...and if it is not used properly...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDWFj6r8I80
     
  11. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Training, Training, Training.
     
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    Decker My house Active Member

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    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    If the situation has degraded to the point you are pinned down and waiting for the grenade through the window I think a change in stratagy would be advised. You have a few choices, give up, fight to the death or attack. The choices determin what the surroundings will look like when you are gone.

    jj
     
  14. el gringo loco

    el gringo loco PDX Member

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    Maybe wearing all that stuff would help. My point was that flash bangs are designed to disorient and distract. Even if you avoid the disorientation portion, you are likely still distracted while trying to overcome or avoid the disorienting effects. From everything I have ever learned in any training, the proactive aggressor will have a degree of advantage over a reactive defender. Flashbangs and violence of action in an assault are designed to interrupt your thought process, causing sensory overload and forcing reaction rather than allowing you to do what you want to do.
     
  15. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    When it gets really bright just start spraying and praying.
     
  16. weekendclimber

    weekendclimber Overlooking Elliot Bay Member

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    Just go down to Walmart and buy a few cases of them and just set them off in your living room. After about 100 or so, you'll be used to the effects and they won't phase you as much. This is how the SAS do it.
     
  17. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    "Is there an effective defense against a "flash bang?"

    Yes! A pre-emptive first strike...:thumbup:
     
  18. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    The best defense is to cover all of your windows with plywood (or better yet, steel plate), and use periscopes to see what's going on outside.
     
  19. FLASHBANG

    FLASHBANG NorthWest Portland, Oregon New Member

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    Closed
     
  20. A2theK

    A2theK Olympia Member

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    Sure is - Fill your house full of natural gas between 4 and 14% and get in a metal box with a fresh air intake and wait for them to toss that puppy in.

    They'll get a bigger flash bang