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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by td1622, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. td1622

    td1622 Eugene, Or New Member

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    Is it me? I can't believe this happened, any suggestions on what to do. I have a CCL, I am an NRA Instructor, I buy and sell about three or four guns a year, veteran etc. two weeks ago I took my grandson and son to the gun show in Eugene and after walking around for an hour my grandson talked me into buying him a Rossi 22 single shot rifle. So I joined the wild looking guys with cammo and mullets buying the exotic black rifles and filled out the forms and waited. ..... Everyone got approved but me ...it has been two weeks and still no approval. I have called them twice and it sounded like I irritated them, the lady said it could take 30 days and it sounded like she was thinking "what's the matter with you?" people have said they are doing a work slow down because they are trying to raise the fee they charge .... I just don't know what to do from here ..... I just hate the idea of the government telling me I can't buy a little rifle ..or any gun for that matter. ....is there anything I can do? It is so wrong, it just makes me angry!
     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    This is why face-to-face private transfers are great.

    You probably have a relatively common name (I do too) and have gotten hung up on some bureaucratic bullbubblegum.
     
  3. joken

    joken Corvallis Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I would get a hold of my local state Representative and politely raise ****. If the OSP raises fees to $26 or whatever it will have a serious negative impact on the gun business. I suspect that's what they really want.
     
  4. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Move to WA where you don't have to pay a fee for the NICS check...
     
  5. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    OSP wants more money so they are doing a slow down......
     
  6. td1622

    td1622 Eugene, Or New Member

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    That makes me mad, that they can tell me I can't buy something for my Grandson, that is not right. You know there are two bills in the legislature right now that would just eliminate them and we could just use the free federal back ground check instead ....we should really work on getting that passed.
     
  7. HollisOR

    HollisOR Rural OR, South of Dallas Active Member

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    I knew a guy, State Correction officer, problem there were one or two people with a name similar to his and B-date who were felons. He always had a heck of a time with approval. I think the state police has a packet or something a person can prepare to expiate those issue. They have combined a lot of data bases, so what was once a simple task, can now be difficult. My wife had a problem because she got married, name change.

    Leave it to our politicians to make a simple task complicated as all ****. What was nice, one time if a person had a CHL, they did not have to do a check. Saves the state police time and the buyer money.
     
  8. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but the ten (or even the $25 if it happens) is probably less than I'd pay in sales tax on a lot of the guns I buy. Either way Uncle Sam finds a way to get his...
     
  9. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    I would defiantly follow up on this to find out why you were denied. I mean you cannot just let this go or you could have continuing problems. By contrast my background check on the CZ I bought last week was the shortest I have ever experienced (maybe one minute or two) and no charge..
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you were DENIED, then there is an appeal process that you can follow.

    It sounds more like you were placed in PENDING. Neither approved nor denied, but in limbo awaiting a decision.

    Been 30 days? You are getting screwed. After THREE days on "pending", they should deliver the gun to you.


    Here is the appropriate section from the State of Oregon Instruction Guide for Dealers:


    "FFL dealers must follow both state and federal law. The following is a summary of
    the requirements regarding release of a firearm prior to or when no approval
    number has been provided by the FICS Unit.
    • ORS 166.412 (3) (c) If the department fails to provide a unique approval number to a gun
    dealer or to notify the gun dealer that the purchaser is disqualified under paragraph (a) of
    this subsection before the close of the gun dealer’s next business day following the request
    by the dealer for a criminal history record check, the dealer may deliver the handgun to the
    purchaser.
    • Federal law prohibits release of a firearm until after the expiration of three business days,
    not counting the day on which the dealer asks OSP to conduct a criminal history record
    check, unless the OSP provides an approval number first."

    Go get your gun.
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    It should make you angry. You (and I) are no longer free men

    The question is what are we going to do about it?
     
  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    But where you have state run liquor stores with 100% markups, cannot own full auto or short barreled rifles..
     
  13. svarterwyrd

    svarterwyrd Ellensburg, Wa New Member

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    Yeah that is a downside of living in WA haha
     
  14. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "td 1622"----most of my guns -- i'v owned for yrs. , and a lot of my newer stuff has been FTF transactions--firstime i bought a gun and had to go through "BGC" i was denied ?? i asked my ffl --wuz up ? he made a comment (did you move recently,and if so-- use old address) also the name on "ODL" (is it what my real name is ?)we came up with a "NATTA" on "ODL"--real name is (steven) not steve ! middle name is (joseph) not J. ,and last name was ok =even with sr attached a few yrs. ago . reapplied late that afternoon--"BINGO" everything was a go !!!

    just my thoughts......steven
     
  15. Ligito

    Ligito Oregon Active Member

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    Oregon doesn't do NICS, they have the State Police check, instead.
     
  16. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    keep in mind the seller "FFL" must maintain records for 20 yrs. and "OSP" maintains records of transaction for max. of 90 days !!

    go figure.....steven
     
  17. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    And you believe that?

    8 US Presidents have been NRA members. They are: Ulysses S. Grant,
    Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Dwight D. Eisenhower,
    John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!!

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    Washington Arms Collector member
    Arms Collectors of South West Washington member
     
  18. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    they have no reason to keep records any further--the atf now has the records -- when you filled out the sheet ,where do you think it went ? your ffl has all records,and for 20 yrs.

    steven
     
  19. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the laugh
     
  20. jvbutter

    jvbutter Cornelius, Or Active Member

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    yup yup

    or have not purchsed a gun through the system in a few years as I had, at my last Official purchase.

    and more money gets what??? faster service cause they will hire more people???? yea right