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Seriously lol. Those 900round crates of malaysian surplus are no joke for some. Ive had drivers roll the package side by side off the truck cuz they couldnt lift themCheck SG ammo too. Had never heard of them till someone here mentioned them a while back. Have been using them a lot now. Price always seems quite good, service always very good. UPS driver probably not real happy with me as those cases of ammo must not make his day for him