Is an ACOG the right optic for me?

sleepygreen · Mar 29, 2011

I currently have an eotech and love it, but find myself almost always shooting at either the 50 or 100 yard ranges from a bench. At these ranges the eotech seems hard to keep accurate and i think an acog with 4x magnification would allow me to shoot at those ranges comfortably and even further with no trouble. I never seem to shoot closer than 50 yards where the eotech would shine. I have weighed several factors with the given optics, and think the acog sounds best, but is expensive. I would like to hear your input regarding which you would suggest and why.

Eotech:
+already own one and like it
+very accurate within 50 or so yards
+practical for hd and fast target aquisition
-not very accurate at 100 yards
-no magnification
-batteries to run out

Eotech with magnifier:
+magnified optic with the ability to remove magnifier for closer work
+just have to get the magnifier, so cheaper than the acog
-2 parts
-i almost never use my rifle for targets less than 50 yards (though i may try to take some carbine courses or something in the future which may involve things like this)

ACOG:
+magnified
+no batteries
+good for 50+ yards
-not so good for less than 50 yards (i have read and heard about the bindon aiming concept but still think the eotech is better in this catagory)
-expensive
-expensive
-expensive

I am basing these criteria based on where i typically shoot, but am trying to get away from the bench. Where do you find yourselves able to do this? My range really only allows shooting at a bench at 25, 50, and 100 yards, which is getting a little boring to me.

G1GRANDEUR · Mar 29, 2011

I'd look for 1-4 or 1-6x scopes.

MrNiceGuy · Mar 29, 2011

I have a 4x magnifier for my eotech. I havent had the chance to shoot it past 200 yards, but it handles 50-200 yards like a champ.
I like the versatility of this setup. I have a flip to the side mount for the magnifier, so it takes less than a second to switch between long and short range.
I too dont do much short range stuff, but it's nice to know that I can easily.

Having said that, I love acogs. Matter of fact, I love pretty much everything that's powered by tritium. They usually have very clear optics as well.
It's just not practical for me right now to spend more money on something that's less versatile.

Blitzkrieg · Mar 29, 2011

I shoot 2 MOA @ 100 yards with an Eotech or iron sights and my PTR 91 .. you shouldn't need magnification at that range unless you are shooting a genuine match grade target rifle for extremely tight groups

MrNiceGuy is right about the tip off Eotech magnifiers.. they are expensive but excellent accessories. I used to sell them

Nwcid · Mar 29, 2011

ACOG's are awesome but for the shooting I do I cant see spending my money on one.

I found the 1-4x CMR a great in-between choice. On 1x you run it like an Eotech, then if you need more crank it up to 4x.

Here is my review on the one I have now, http://www.northwestfirearms.com/general-firearm-discussion/49597-leatherwood-cmr-pic-heavy.html

sleepygreen · Mar 29, 2011

Skang said:
I'd look for 1-4 or 1-6x scopes.

I have been considering the millet dms-1. Since the center dot is 1moa, does it get larger when you zoom in?

BillCh · Mar 30, 2011

I'd say go with the magnifier with a flip mount. You already have the Eotech that you like, right?

I have an Aimpoint M4 and a magnifier with a flip mount on a Larue rail. I also use a 2.5-10 scope on a Larue rail for the same rifle. As nice as the scope is I almost like the Aimpoint setup better. I believe that the ACOG would be less flexible for me.

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