Is a shift to a wartime economy coming?

[JuglansRegia]

Unless the Chinese set foot on Taiwan. Then we will be more than close enough.

There will be a naval blockade, and flying in arms will be risky and not very practical. Taiwan needs to stack it deep now. China's population will start its decline in a year or two so they are running out of time for a big move.

 

[Hueco]

There will be a naval blockade, and flying in arms will be risky and not very practical. Taiwan needs to stack it deep now. China's population will start its decline in a year or two so they are running out of time for a big move.

Their aging population + covid related global recession + their own housing bubble bursting + angsty teen males with small future family prospects…

It’s unfortunate because so much life will be lost…but they’re approaching a “sh!t or get off the pot” moment with Taiwan.

 

[GWS]

There will be a naval blockade, and flying in arms will be risky and not very practical. Taiwan needs to stack it deep now. China's population will start its decline in a year or two so they are running out of time for a big move.

Our navy will have to break that blockade as well as establish its own blockade to stop oil and other raw materials from getting into China AND keep another fleet on hand to keep an eye on the Russians in case they want to join the mayhem. Our navy does not appear to be up to the task.

 

[wjv]

Who is John?

He's sitting in the chair that's against the wall

 

[Xaevian]

He's sitting in the chair that's against the wall

Didn't they just change that code phrase to Joan has a long mustache!

 

[wjv]

We need to stop worrying about Ukraine and get our own house in order

GAO: Navy Not Ready to Repair Battle Damaged Ships

Navy ships face growing maintenance delays, costs, watchdog reports

We are too busy spending money on how the military can become more woke.

 

[JuglansRegia]

Our navy will have to break that blockade as well as establish its own blockade to stop oil and other raw materials from getting into China AND keep another fleet on hand to keep an eye on the Russians in case they want to join the mayhem. Our navy does not appear to be up to the task.

Breaking a Chinese blockade on Taiwan should be doable, especially on the east side of Taiwan. If things get hot though, getting our navy within range of China's assortment of anti-ship missiles will not end well. Sure we can knock out those missiles but not all of them. The Russians lost their black sea flagship to the first two missiles fired at it.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Actually, the bulk of that was sold for export. Half of it is probably sitting in the basements of NWFA members.

Shhhhhhh. We don't talk about that

 

[nehalemguy]

"AF" is short of fresh water

That six word sentence sank four aircraft carriers.

-E-

 

[Cavedweller]

Estonia has floated a plan whereby EU members would ramp up ammunition production to meet the needs of the war in Ukraine. Under the proposal, the countries that invest in new production facilities would be reimbursed out of EU funds. However, EU red tape would have to be streamlined in order to allow the new facilities to come on line in a reasonable period of time. I'm not sure how the EU raises monies, but it sounds like the taxpayers in EU member states will foot the bill.

 

[Bam]

Even thought I am well stocked in the ammo department, I’m still buying at least 1000 rounds a month.

After the last ammo shortages, I won’t worry about it again. Ammo prices are not the cheapest, but they are still cheap enough to horde.

 

[tkdguy]

Even thought I am well stocked in the ammo department, I’m still buying at least 1000 rounds a month.

After the last ammo shortages, I won’t worry about it again. Ammo prices are not the cheapest, but they are still cheap enough to horde.

What are you buying? 9 mm and all hunting rounds or???

 

[HighlandLofts]

If we do go to war with China do you think they will still supply us with everything they make that we need?

 

[Cavedweller]

If we do go to war with China do you think they will still supply us with everything they make that we need?

Exactly why I laugh every time I hear the geniuses in DC talk about placing sanctions on China. What are we going to do, stop borrowing money from them?

 

[GWS]

If we do go to war with China do you think they will still supply us with everything they make that we need?

Well, sure
How else can they afford to buy Russian and Iranian oil?

 

[ATCclears]

The U.S. Is Not Yet Ready for the Era of ‘Great Power’ Conflict

Since 2018, the military has shifted to focus on China and Russia after decades fighting insurgencies, but it still faces challenges to produce weapons and come up with new ways of waging war.

www.wsj.com

 

[OldBroad44]

The US economy is going to experience the greatest growth ever now and in coming years and will thus in many ways resemble a war economy whether there is an actual hot war involving US troops or not.

The US is in the process of revamping its economy and trade entirely, bringing all its manufacturing home to US or Mexico, and pulling almost all its supply chains to within North America. US can do and already does high end design and manufacturing. It is aiming to expand to do high end manufacture and low-end manufacture best done by robots these days. And will depend on Mexico for medium-end manufacture. China was competitive with medium-end only because they already had the factories. But the most modern low-end manufacturing is robotic.

North America is capable of producing all its energy and food. We even have enough NA sources of fertilizers. We can make all our own cheap stuff and medical supplies given partnership with Mexico. Covid and trade war with China had already convinced American companies and both US political parties to bring our manufacturing home to NA, and we now have the needed formal trade agreements with Mexico and Canada to facilitate this restructuring. It can't happen instantly. Much can be done within a year, but it takes 3 years to build a chip factory and probably 5-10 years to expand our mining and metal processing adequately. Info from Zeihan, who predicts a massive growth in US economy over next 5-10 years as US manufacturing expands, with serious labor shortages and inflation.

 

[Certaindeaf]

.how does one prepare?

Learn Ukrainian.

 

[Burt Gummer]

In the US anyway we do not live in a country we live in a gigantic corporation. All it cares about is control and profits. Sickly people give up control and are very profitable to the corrupt med establishment, pharms, etc.

We only still have a 2A now because there isn't any profit in removing it right now. Control, yes. But the establishment, machine prefers both. The Phizzers, Blackrocks and Raytheons ARE the government.

The last three years has proven that most of the populace are easily deceived, frightened, gullible useful idiots. Anyone that believes such a populace is free or brave or can indefinitely maintain the right to bear arms is deluded.

We are easily being shifted into the Clown World the WEF dictates for us. Once the gov crypto is established and all other forms of currency voided the first two things to be verbotten will be guns and ammo. Then maybe anything healthy for you.

 

[erikjill]

The US economy is going to experience the greatest growth ever now and in coming years and will thus in many ways resemble a war economy whether there is an actual hot war involving US troops or not.

The US is in the process of revamping its economy and trade entirely, bringing all its manufacturing home to US or Mexico, and pulling almost all its supply chains to within North America. US can do and already does high end design and manufacturing. It is aiming to expand to do high end manufacture and low-end manufacture best done by robots these days. And will depend on Mexico for medium-end manufacture. China was competitive with medium-end only because they already had the factories. But the most modern low-end manufacturing is robotic.

North America is capable of producing all its energy and food. We even have enough NA sources of fertilizers. We can make all our own cheap stuff and medical supplies given partnership with Mexico. Covid and trade war with China had already convinced American companies and both US political parties to bring our manufacturing home to NA, and we now have the needed formal trade agreements with Mexico and Canada to facilitate this restructuring. It can't happen instantly. Much can be done within a year, but it takes 3 years to build a chip factory and probably 5-10 years to expand our mining and metal processing adequately. Info from Zeihan, who predicts a massive growth in US economy over next 5-10 years as US manufacturing expands, with serious labor shortages and inflation.

We could regain our status as a global powerhouse, but our reps in DC don't want us to become self-sufficient. Every decision coming out of Washington is harmful to our well being as a nation, whether its our pitiful policies on energy, border control, budget/finance, Covid lockdowns, promotion of BLM/Antifa groups, etc.

Their global philosophy is that it isn't fair for the US to be a super power, and that every country should be equal in terms of standard of living as every other nation. Don't lift everyone else up to US standards, but take everyone down to a low standard. As long as the globalists are in power, they won't let us return to our status as the global superpower. I think it was Madeline Albright who once said that it was frightening to her that the US was the most powerful nation on the world.

I don't see the .gov allowing US business and industry to sprint toward becoming self sufficient any time soon.