Intro to Emergency Trauma Care - Sherwood, OR

[Idagonian]

I've not seen this posted previously so I thought it might be of interest to some. I'm not affiliated with TD other than having taken several of their classes.

Where: Threat Dynamics - Sherwood, OR
Next Session: Saturday, Jan. 19th 9a-2p

Sessions have been getting scheduled every other month or so.

Description
(copied from TD website
Intro to Emergency Trauma Care — Threat Dynamics ):

INTRO TO EMERGENCY TRAUMA CARE
IETC is a class designed to teach students the necessary skills to evaluate a traumatic situation and confidently take immediate action to save a life or lives. No matter if you are at a construction site, driving down the highway, picking your kids up from school or shooting at the range, a potentially life threatening situation could be just around the corner. The knowledge you will learn in this class can save a life at any time.

This class is offered as a partnership between Threat Dynamics and Knight Defense, classes are hosted at Threat Dynamics.

CLASS CURRICULUM

• History of Trauma Care
• Wound ballistics
• Assessment and evaluation
• FIrst Aid
• Hemorrhage Control
• Tourniquets and improvised Tourniquets
• Hypothermia Prevention
• Evacuation
• Regional EMS Systems
• How to build your Kit
  

Cost: $125 per student

INSTRUCTOR
MATT LEECH OF KNIGHT DEFENSE
Matt Leech is highly trained paramedic and trauma specialist who's training and career spans a quarter of a century. Over the course of his career he has spent 26 years as a paramedic for both public and private companies as well as at correctional facilities and rural and urban fire departments. Matt is also a Medic and a Law Enforcement Tactical Combat Casualty Care (LEO TCCC) instructor.

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[EPS]

Did a class at the beginning of the year .
All day class . every thing from CPR.
TO STOP THE BLEEDING.
put on by my sister's fire department.
Worth the money .and the time.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Taking first aid / CPR classes is indeed time and money well spent.
I would encourage all here , who haven't taking a class to take one...the life you save , may be one you love or your own....
Andy

 

[EPS]

Taking first aid / CPR classes is indeed time and money well spent.
I would encourage all here , who haven't taking a class to take one...the life you save , may be one you love or your own....
Andy

My sister's fire department does it every year on the island and it's not that much money .
Only like 60 bucks and they have a lunch.
And they are real life PARMETIC AND EMT TEACHING THE CLASS.

 

[CountryGent]

@Idagonian, thanks for posting the link and info.

@AndyinEverson, totally agree. @TeacherSmurf used to teach Red Cross first aid, CPR, and other classes.

 

[Kruel J]

Always keep my certs up to date.

 

[EPS]

Well what I'm going to say might not be P.C.
but we spend lots of money learning how to shoot people or use a gun in SELF DEFENSE.
IT'S WORTH IT .to spend some money learning how to save a life.
JUST SAYING

 

[Kruel J]

Well what I'm going to say might not be P.C.
but we spend lots of money learning how to shoot people or use a gun in SELF DEFENSE.
IT'S WORTH IT .to spend some money learning how to save a life.
JUST SAYING

Saving a life is a lot more rewarding. Just saying.

 

[EPS]

Been there done it BROTHER .
I KNOW

 

[EPS]

So years ago I was at my mom's house in REDDING CALIFORNIA.
the neighbors where having a party.
Kids mostly.
Anyway some drunk kid punch a glass door and cut his ARTERIE under his arm pit.
BLOOD SPERTING OUT.
me and my sister did the stop the bleeding thing with a towel and a belt home made CAT.
IT TOOK 15 MINUTES FOR A EMT TO GET THERE.
any way the kid lived .
And his mom came to thank us later.
But we were not there she talked to my mom.
The doctor said if WE WOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED OR SLOWED THE BLEEDING.
he would have been dead

 

[Idagonian]

AAR: I just attended this course yesterday.
There were only five students, myself included.

I was impressed with the instructor, Matt Leech, who has many years of fire/emt/firearms experience and was a good presenter. This was definitely an intro class, though! The instructor gave an overview of the M-A-R-C-H mneumonic but we spent almost all of our time on the "M" (massive hemorrhage) with some discussion of "H" (hypothermia). There was also some good lecture on wound ballistics and there was a some pertinent history presented throughout.

We iterated several times applying CAT tourniquets to ourselves and each other (with a 30-second time constraint), including one-handed. We applied Emergency Trauma Bandages to ouselves. We also practiced performing blood sweeps on each other and a few techniques for moving/carrying an injured person. The instructor verbally explained how to pack a wound but there was no hands-on at all. In fact, there were no mannequins or simulators at all.

We didn't spend any time on circulation or airway management. There was no discussion of tension pneumothorax until one student asked about chest seals at the end of class.

There were unresolved technical problems that prevented the instructor from sharing the videos he'd brought too. Maybe because of this, the class that was supposed to run from 9a-2p ended at noon. He was able, however, to present all his lecture slides and photos.

Matt said that their long-term plan is to build up a pool of people who've been through this intro course and then they'll start offering a level 2 course to those graduates.

I'm trying to keep am open mind and I will take level 2 if they offer it. Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed. For $125, I expected a little more, especially given the excellent training I've gotten in TD's other classes. Still, hats off to 'em! I've not seen any other nearby ranges offering any trauma training at all (please correct me if I'm wrong). I know Threat Dynamics has, sadly, had difficulty filling these classes and I'm grateful for their commitment to get this started, even if the launch is a little rocky.

 

[Idagonian]

I forgot to mention, the next "Intro to Emergency Trauma Care" class is scheduled for March 16th.

I should also temper my negative comments above by saying I've been Red Cross certified for First Aid/CPR/AED for years and I was hoping for something more advanced on the trauma side.
For somebody who hasn't had any training AT ALL, TD's class wouldn't be a bad place to start.

 

[BAC19]

Did a class at the beginning of the year .
All day class . every thing from CPR.
TO STOP THE BLEEDING.
put on by my sister's fire department.
Worth the money .and the time.
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Do I know that person teaching the class?

 

[BAC19]

AAR: I just attended this course yesterday.
There were only five students, myself included.

I was impressed with the instructor, Matt Leech, who has many years of fire/emt/firearms experience and was a good presenter. This was definitely an intro class, though! The instructor gave an overview of the M-A-R-C-H mneumonic but we spent almost all of our time on the "M" (massive hemorrhage) with some discussion of "H" (hypothermia). There was also some good lecture on wound ballistics and there was a some pertinent history presented throughout.

We iterated several times applying CAT tourniquets to ourselves and each other (with a 30-second time constraint), including one-handed. We applied Emergency Trauma Bandages to ouselves. We also practiced performing blood sweeps on each other and a few techniques for moving/carrying an injured person. The instructor verbally explained how to pack a wound but there was no hands-on at all. In fact, there were no mannequins or simulators at all.

We didn't spend any time on circulation or airway management. There was no discussion of tension pneumothorax until one student asked about chest seals at the end of class.

There were unresolved technical problems that prevented the instructor from sharing the videos he'd brought too. Maybe because of this, the class that was supposed to run from 9a-2p ended at noon. He was able, however, to present all his lecture slides and photos.

Matt said that their long-term plan is to build up a pool of people who've been through this intro course and then they'll start offering a level 2 course to those graduates.

I'm trying to keep am open mind and I will take level 2 if they offer it. Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed. For $125, I expected a little more, especially given the excellent training I've gotten in TD's other classes. Still, hats off to 'em! I've not seen any other nearby ranges offering any trauma training at all (please correct me if I'm wrong). I know Threat Dynamics has, sadly, had difficulty filling these classes and I'm grateful for their commitment to get this started, even if the launch is a little rocky.

 

[EPS]

Do I know that person teaching the class?

She was there but not teaching .
The two ladies teaching the class were paramedics from Burlington and Everett.

 

[BAC19]

Hmmm, now I'm wondering if this would be what I should take. Granted my field experience is limited but I've been an RN for more years that I'll admit, have worked search and rescue, and as a trauma nurse (started out as a medic in the USAF). None of it is very recent experience however. My current job no longer involves patient care. Last CPR and First Aid classes probably 8 years ago. And have taken more CPR/ACLS classes than I can count. Any advice anyone??? I wonder if TD would be open to allowing applicants with medical training to enter level 2 training w/o level 1 training. If they're not, I'll probably look elsewhere.

 

[BAC19]

She was there but not teaching .
The two ladies teaching the class were paramedics from Burlington and Everett.

 

[Seraphim38]

If a class like this gets scheduled near the Seattle/Bellevue area, I would consider going.

 

[Idagonian]

Hmmm, now I'm wondering if this would be what I should take. Granted my field experience is limited but I've been an RN for more years that I'll admit, have worked search and rescue, and as a trauma nurse (started out as a medic in the USAF). None of it is very recent experience however. My current job no longer involves patient care. Last CPR and First Aid classes probably 8 years ago. And have taken more CPR/ACLS classes than I can count. Any advice anyone??? I wonder if TD would be open to allowing applicants with medical training to enter level 2 training w/o level 1 training. If they're not, I'll probably look elsewhere.

I understand that trauma treatment has had some revision because of all the data we acquired in Afghanistan and Iraq. How long ago was your trauma experience? I don't know what they'd say about your going straight to level 2 but I'm sure they'd be open to a conversation. Of course, it's all academic until they actually offer a level 2 class. ;-)

 

[knightdefense]

I am the actual owner of Knight Defense and we work with Threat Dynamics to deliver this medical training. Overall the course at Threat Dynamics is a very short version of what we teach to Military and LE folks from 1-5 days at a time. The intent of this class is to teach folks that carry concealed carry every day how to mange wounds they could sustain in a street type engagement. The thing to remember is there is a huge difference between Medical care and Penetrating Trauma care. When you take a CPR or First Aid class it is teaching you to generally deal with Medical type problems like heart attacks, or non-shooting and fighting injuries like a broken leg or a bad cut. When we talk about how to manage combat type injuries (gunshots, knife wounds, etc) that is a different skillset, and thus falls under the Tactical Combat Casualty Care guidelines that were initially written by Military Special Operations post Somalia (Black Hawk Down). This is why we teach the MARCH pneumonic vs the traditional Red Cross ABCs. I highly recommend that everyone keep current on CPR and First Aid, but realize that hemorrhage control and use of tourniquets is a necessary skillset when you could be involved in a use of force situation as a concealed carry member, or present at an active threat event. To take this one step further hemorrhage control really is the most important thing to teach in this setting. In orders of priority you can bleed to death from an artery laceration in less than 2 minutes if not treated. While we do want to teach you about airway management and chest injuries, the reality is there isn't enough time to make you proficient in those skills for this class. Airway is important, but merely rolling someone on their side solves most issues. As for chest injuries, there isn't generally anything that can be done for them outside of the Trauma Center if a person isn't a Paramedic. There is a lot of questions about chest seals and needle chest decompression, but honestly it takes a long time to develop a tension pneumothorax from a penetrating chest wound, and generally the ambulance will be there to treat it before it actually happens in our metro area. Feel free to hit us up anytime you have questions as we've been treating shooting and fighting injuries for a long time. www.knightdefensellc.com