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Welcome. Check great deals section. MKE mp5 clone for $849. Likely the best value PCC out there and definitely in the top 2 for fun to shoot, probably the top 2 also for long term reliability. Super low recoil. It's a steal imo.Hi Guys-
Just another guy here trying to exercise my second amendment right. Trying to find local gun ranges, gun shops, etc. in my area. I'm in the market for a PCC and optics for it. Any advice will be appreciated.
Arlo
I will check that out. Thank you. I've been looking at the Springfield Saint Victor 9mm.Welcome. Check great deals section. MKE mp5 clone for $849. Likely the best value PCC out there and definitely in the top 2 for fun to shoot, probably the top 2 also for long term reliability. Super low recoil. It's a steal imo.
Note that AR based 9mm are very long in overall length. They also have higher recoil than a 5.56 AR.I will check that out. Thank you. I've been looking at the Springfield Saint Victor 9mm.
Thanks for the info.Note that AR based 9mm are very long in overall length. They also have higher recoil than a 5.56 AR.
Here is a list of some PCCs by length if you are interested (note where AR 9 falls on the list, colored in green):
List of subguns/PCCs/PDWs by OAL, barrel length, muzzle energy (fpe)
10.6", 4.5" - Vz61 (250 fpe 9x18) 11-12.5", up to 6" - Glock 17/22/34 etc + B&T USW chassis 9mm/.40/.357 sig or .45/10mm for large frame Glock (360 fpe 9mm, 490 fpe 45 ACP, 500 fpe .40 S&W, 600-650 fpe 10mm, 570-640 fpe .357 sig; all 6") 11.6", 5.7" - Mac 10 with stock retracted, no suppressor...www.northwestfirearms.com
Thank you for the information. I will check it out.Welcome Aboard. Glad you found the forum.
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So after doing some digging and research, I don't think I want a 9mm PCC anymore. I'm looking into 5.56 or 300 blackout now.Note that AR based 9mm are very long in overall length. They also have higher recoil than a 5.56 AR.
Here is a list of some PCCs by length if you are interested (note where AR 9 falls on the list, colored in green):
List of subguns/PCCs/PDWs by OAL, barrel length, muzzle energy (fpe)
10.6", 4.5" - Vz61 (250 fpe 9x18) 11-12.5", up to 6" - Glock 17/22/34 etc + B&T USW chassis 9mm/.40/.357 sig or .45/10mm for large frame Glock (360 fpe 9mm, 490 fpe 45 ACP, 500 fpe .40 S&W, 600-650 fpe 10mm, 570-640 fpe .357 sig; all 6") 11.6", 5.7" - Mac 10 with stock retracted, no suppressor...www.northwestfirearms.com