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Interesting comment in CHL class, any truth?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by beavertonbuck, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    So I took the class necessary to get my OR CHL and I heard an interesting comment and wondered if anyone has heard of this. This older lady apparently has a WA concealed license and was taking the class to get the OR/UT licenses. She mentioned that she alway conceals when she is in OR because she was told that she was grandfathered in. The instructor told her he hadn't heard of that before but was pretty sure that she had been concealing illegally. Any thoughts?
     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Not that I know of and I've had a WA license for about 26 years and an OR almost as long. No "grandfather" clauue that I know of nor have I seen anything in the laws that allow it.
    I think she's carrying illegally too.
     
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    aussie Silverton, OR Member

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  4. EMP9596

    EMP9596 Two Trees West of Camas, WA. Active Member

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    She has got some bad info from someone or she is full of it?
     
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  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    There's no grandfather clause in the statutes. I'm sure it's illegal.
     
  6. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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    This.
     
  7. Ligito

    Ligito Oregon Active Member

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    I'm a grandfather and I had to apply in both states.:laugh:
     
  8. rolandson

    rolandson Oregon Active Member

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    no such thing.
     
  9. Ding

    Ding Lighter Side of Oz Active Member

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    People get into more trouble with mis-information.Common sense and a study of those state laws that you would be carrying in would be of utmost importance.I believe in a constitutional carry and that I should be able to protect myself and family in any state or city regardless of any line on a map but sadly it is not the case in many states and cities.So in order to be "legal" ya better read,read and then read some more.I find that many people that give courses can have a different explanation that varies so I would read the laws.
     
  10. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    I to thought it was illegal because OR doesn't have reciprocity with any other states. She did also said in the middle of class that her police friends told her if she shot someone in her front yard to drag them into the house (I guess blood trail be damned).
     
  11. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Wow, two wrong beliefs!!
     
  12. Lucretius76

    Lucretius76 Spokane, Wa. New Member

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    Maybe it was a "Grandmother" clause
     
  13. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    She has been breaking the law in Oregon. Unless she was OC'ing in a non prohibited city such as PDX, Salem, etc.
     
  14. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    Nope. I learned that even with the CHL that you can't carry on Indian Reservations. Apparently she travels a lot to the Warm Springs Casino and has always carried her pistol in here purse. Being in the class and hearing some of the statements made reinforced my belief that you have to read the law yourself rather than taking someone else's opinion.

    As an aside, the class was very good in that we were able to watch several videos and then discuss some of the legal issues involved and whether we thought the actions were justified or not. It really goes to show how much grey area there is out there.
     
  15. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    What made you think a CHL from the state of Oregon was good on a sovereign Native American reservation?
     
  16. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    I had never thought much about it honestly, because I've never been on a reservation. I assumed (but would have actually checked the laws if traveling there with a gun) that there would have been some mutual agreement between the state and the reservation regarding concealed carry.
     
  17. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This brings up an interesting question. If I am driving on a State or Federal road or highway that crosses thru an Indian reservation, where do my rights end and their sovereignty begin? Am I legal carrying only while in my car, or not at all? What if I get out of my car at a convenience store or gas station that is on a reservation? Am I in deep KAKA if I am caught carrying?

    Knowledgeable input appreciated!
     
  18. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    The instructor told we that passing thru is okay. Any deviation from that route could get you in trouble was his take.
     
  19. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Your right to carry ends at the edge of the right of way. So if its a 100' wide right of way 50' off the center of the road (approximately since roads aren't always in the middle of the right of way) Your rights end and the Reservations laws and soverenty take over.

    I used to hunt along the western edge of Warm Springs and after having a couple conversations with reservation police I never went within 100 yards of the border again. Seams they don't cotton to people not of the tribe wandering around on tribal property. I was politely informed that it could take as long as a week should I be found on the wrong side of the border before they bothered to tell anyone in Oregon law enforcement I was being held. I was quite glad to take this warning from them while I was still a few hundred feet from the border.
     
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    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

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