Interesting Ammo Find (old too)......????

[Sabot1]

So I have been trying to do some research on a box of ammunition I recieved from my Father after he passed away (WWII Vet).

Its a 20 rd box, with an old date stamp that says June 1 917. The ammunition looks like it is 7.62x54r ammunition, and it has a headstamp that says "Remington 17".:huh::huh::huh:

I have researched the best i can, and found that this seems to be some sort of military contract run from WWI. The box and the rounds seem to be in pretty good condition for being that old.

Does anyone know any more information on this ammunition?

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[SheepDog223]

I googled remington 17 and it came up as the rem 17 fireball 4,000fps. Try googling it to find out more info.

 

[Sabot1]

Thanks for the info...

I had found the Remington 17 Fireball also, but it is a whole different beast.

the fireball has a 20 gr bullet, and a screaming velocity. Link attached:

http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/centerfire/17_Remington_Fireball.asp


The rounds I have are definitely something different.

 

[treemanx]

Dont know anything about it, but a friend and I used to go up the mountain to the common shooting areas and pick up all the brass people left behind for re-loading. I remember finding casings that looked just like those a few times in the same spot, and never did find out what they were all about. Sorry I couldnt be of more help

 

[ZeroRing]

If you have a caliper and can post some measurements it might help track down more info on it. It's tough to tell from the pic but I'm pretty sure that it's not the .17 Fireball since that is a "newer" cartridge that wasn't around back in WWI - WWII days.

 

[MarkSBG]

I'm pretty sure that the 17 Fireball is a suped up modern caliber rifle round.

I am no expert, but this is what I found...

The 7.62x54R is a Russian rifle cartridge desigend for the Mosin-Nagant. Your rounds appear to be for the Remington M91 as shown here:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareUSRemington.htm

Is those rounds rare? Sorry, dunno.

Here is another example of some rem 17 for your viewing pleasure...

http://www.buymilsurp.com/762x54r-remington-1917-20rd-boxes-qty-3-p-5661.html

 

[Sabot1]

No caliper here...( I know...the shame of it all....)

But I could set it up beside a Russian 7.62x54R and maybe another caliber for comparison....

 

[Sabot1]

I'm pretty sure that the 17 Fireball is a suped up modern caliber rifle round.

I am no expert, but this is what I found...

The 7.62x54R is a Russian rifle cartridge desigend for the Mosin-Nagant. Your rounds appear to be for the Remington M91 as shown here:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareUSRemington.htm

Is those rounds rare? Sorry, dunno.

Here is another example of some rem 17 for your viewing pleasure...

http://www.buymilsurp.com/762x54r-remington-1917-20rd-boxes-qty-3-p-5661.html

Good information............Boy do those examples look thrashed......

 

[skud_dusty]

Here's a bit more info on the US made Mosins:

http://mosinnagant.net/ussr/us-mosin-nagants.asp

I wouldn't say they are super rare, but definitely not as common as their Russian counterparts.

 

[eldbillbo]

Here's a bit more info on the US made Mosins:

http://mosinnagant.net/ussr/us-mosin-nagants.asp

I wouldn't say they are super rare, but definitely not as common as their Russian counterparts.

I have a Remington mosin got it for fity bux

 

[Sabot1]

Here is a picture with three rounds lined up next to each other.

Left = Russian 7.62x54r

Middle = "Remington 17" round

Right = .303 Enfield


By comparison, I would say that this is definitely 7.62x54r