Info for shooting on public lands...

[Andy54Hawken]

A second Thank You to @Rem700..300
For cleaning that up.
Andy

 

[Cogs]

Got out hunting Thursday evening and Saturday evening. Not much moving around animal wise. Found this big pile on Thursday evening. Even a 55 inch tv.
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Saturday evening got to shoot the new to me GP100 and Rossi 357 rifle. A lot of party left overs and a still smoldering fire. Went hunting with no luck. Did pick up a left over camp site. Great smelling pan cakes were left on the plates in the fire pit plus enough to fill a large bag. Then we found a dead Audi in a creek bottom. A group that owned it showed up just as we were leaving to pull it out. They had a long night ahead of them.
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Hopefully some rain next week will help. Don't know where they all went.

Way to go, Craig and Tracy! But meat in the freezer is pretty important too! Get some!!!

 

[Rem700..300]

Holy moly looks like they rolled it off the cliff? Thanks for cleaning up their crap!

It was about 8 to 10 ft down. Yes she was lucky it stayed up right. She said she just got it and loose gravel caused the wreck. Have my own opinion of what cause it by looking around the car but I wasnt there. At least everyone was ok!
Good luck to everyone hunting. Stay safe.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

It was about 8 to 10 ft down. Yes she was lucky it stayed up right. She said she just got it and loose gravel caused the wreck. Have my own opinion of what cause it by looking around the car but I wasnt there. At least everyone was ok!
Good luck to everyone hunting. Stay safe.

I would tend to agree with you. Audi 4wd is very predictable and controllable on gravel and snow (if you are sober that is ha ha). They were the first to use awd in rallying so they have been doing it for a while.

Just for fun, 2 min video of my favorite rally driver in Audi rally car. Crazy how spectators are right on the road as he is flying by.

 

[Flymph]

You rock! I wish I could get out more to lend a hand!

Not to ask too much, but it might be good to report that wreck... gotta keep the streams healthy!

 

[Rem700..300]

We did report it. Not sure what happened after that. Never did get a call from a deputy. Going back up there in a few days. Curious to see the "stuff" left.

 

[Cogs]

Information source: Clark County WA Fire Marshal's Office
https://clark.wa.gov/community-deve...sistance-identifying-persons-vehicle-interest

Fire Marshal seeks public's assistance identifying persons, vehicle of interest in Nakia Creek fire

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Published Date

Mon, 10/17/2022 - 4:45 PM

The Clark County Fire Marshal's Office is asking for the public's help in identifying persons and a vehicle of interest in an ongoing fire investigation.

The Fire Marshal's office is asking the public to review the video and photo below to see if they recognize the people or vehicle. The video was taken Sunday, Oct. 9 at approximately 3:30 pm on a ridge near where the Nakia Creek fire is burning on Larch Mountain.

"We are looking for what we believe is a white or light-colored Subaru vehicle," said Assistant Fire Marshal Curtis Eavenson. "Based on witness statements, we also believe there were two men and two women connected with this vehicle."

If anyone recognizes the vehicle or people depicted in the video or has any information regarding the ongoing wildfire investigation, they are urged to contact the county's Fire Marshal Office at (564) 397-3320.

The Nakia Creek fire is located 9 miles northeast of Camas in the Yacolt Burn State Forest. More information on the fire including evacuation updates can be found online at http://cresa911.org/2022/10/11/nakia-creek-fire-updates/.

Video:

Close up video:

Photo: https://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2022-10/517/158387/Nakia.jpg

CONTACT:
Curtis Eavenson, Assistant Fire Marshal, Community Development
564.397.3320, [email protected]

 

[Rem700..300]

Sent this to the BLM head of the area tonight.
Hi John
Tracy and I spent the afternoon up at Neal Creek hunting and cleaning up. Been seeing deer but no antlers.
Dont remember if we told you but coming out from hunting we found an Audi in a creek that had slid off the edge on 10-16. Ended up talking to to the girl who slid it off the road the night before. Her friends were going to pull it out. I went back 2 days later and the car the was gone. I called it in but didnt get any response. Guess what the car has shown up again smashed to pieces and dumped in the pull out by the entrance to the 2 mile pit. We called it in to Linn County dispatch and they said it would be a while before anyone gets there. We were there for 2 hours and nobody showed up. Still haven't recieved a call back from a deputy.

The little old quarry just before the Weyerhauser pit had a couch and a lot of shooting trash and squatter trash from a couple of weeks ago. We filled the trailer with junk. It seems to be nonstop up there. Hope all is well.
Thanks
Craig and Tracy

 

[Rem700..300]

Just talked to the Benton county forest deputy and they found a sqatter camp on the back side of Marys Peak that had a trampoline and will probably fill a 20 plus yard dumpster. Yippee.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Sent this to the BLM head of the area tonight.
Hi John
Tracy and I spent the afternoon up at Neal Creek hunting and cleaning up. Been seeing deer but no antlers.
Dont remember if we told you but coming out from hunting we found an Audi in a creek that had slid off the edge on 10-16. Ended up talking to to the girl who slid it off the road the night before. Her friends were going to pull it out. I went back 2 days later and the car the was gone. I called it in but didnt get any response. Guess what the car has shown up again smashed to pieces and dumped in the pull out by the entrance to the 2 mile pit. We called it in to Linn County dispatch and they said it would be a while before anyone gets there. We were there for 2 hours and nobody showed up. Still haven't recieved a call back from a deputy.

The little old quarry just before the Weyerhauser pit had a couch and a lot of shooting trash and squatter trash from a couple of weeks ago. We filled the trailer with junk. It seems to be nonstop up there. Hope all is well.
Thanks
Craig and Tracy

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Wow. Weird. Stolen car I wonder?

 

[DirectDrive]

Good work, as always.
It's disappointing that the authorities are a no-show.

 

[Flymph]

Good work, as always.
It's disappointing that the authorities are a no-show.

Better to call and know where we stand than assume all is well...

 

[HotRodGuy]

Spoiler: Long rant, sorry.

Hey folks. Much of what I am going to say is common sense, but I'd still like to say it.
I am an on site watchman for a logging company currently under contract to log within a national forest. I often have hunters, target shooters, and people just out exploring up here.
If you come upon a logging operation out in the mountains, obey the signs. If they have a watchman on site, stop and talk to them, especially if the watchman has a sign on the road that says to check in before proceeding. We have places we don't want the general public to go due to safety and security concerns. I will chase you down, as 3 teens found out tonight when I chased them down at midnight to find they were up here stealing the signs from the logging operation which spans 5 miles. If it is public land, we (I at least) try to have as much accessible as possible while not putting a burden on the crew.
If someone on the site tells you that the section is currently closed due to the logging operation, please don't try to argue saying you know the laws/owner/ranger, we dont really care. I only close the section when having the public there would pose a safety risk like having your head cut off by the cables that are run across the roads or the trees that are falling down from the hillside, or maybe there is a shovel working in the middle of a 2 mile long single lane road with no where for it to get to the side safely. We put the safety of the crew and the public above your desire to go look and see if there is an elk in your favorite spot and having a ranger standing there won't really change our minds.
Having a CB in your vehicle is very helpful when on a FSR/approaching logging sites. Also, it will make me more inclined to allow you to go through/to places I won't let people without one.
If there is a logging operation on it, there will usually be a channel number (CB 36) on a board or tree at the start of the road to indicate what channel to be on. Call out when you enter the road, and mile markers which can be in different intervals (1/4, 1/2, etc) to ensure you don't come nose to nose with a log truck on a corner. Be aware that the channel may change along the road and some roads may have specific instructions posted on an advisory board to tell you what they want you to do.
Please, yield ROW to the trucks as they are bigger and harder to stop plus it is easier for you to reverse if needed. When you pull into a wide spot to let them pass, tell them you are out of the way if you have a CB.
If you come to a sign that says overhead lines and has a channel number, stop at the sign and switch to that channel then ask permission to go under the line. Not all companies have flaggers (the other part of my job), but the practice of no flaggers for working overhead lines is usually just on privately owned land but a FSR may pass through.
Watchmen like myself keep an eye out for people who trash a place, we also pay attention to those who clean it up. I am far more inclined to move a bulldozer out of the way for someone that I have seen up here on a weekend who hauled out a bag of trash than I am for someone who left one behind.
Our human contact is often limited, we enjoy it that way. If you are approached by or approach a watchman, your attitude often dictates the outcome. If you come at me angry and cussing at me because you had to stop at my sign, I may say the entire section is closed out of safety concerns. If you are polite, I may tell you to use caution and not to stop between markers X and Y because there have been a number of rock or tree falls. Plus, if you stop and tell me that you are going to be in a certain spot or stretch looking for a deer/elk, I will ask how long you think you will be up there so I don't go driving up there making a lot of noise. Instead, I will just ask that you not go beyond mile marker Z because there is equipment blocking the road a quarter mile beyond and I might even say I saw something at a certain spot when I was up there an hour ago. But if you just blow past, I will play Ride Of The Valkyries on my loudspeaker as I drive up behind you.

Anyways, this rant is because I had to chase a group of thieves down at midnight after going to sleep at 9 and my 12hr day job starts in 30min with 3hr sleep for the second night this week.

Stay safe.

 

[Cogs]

Spoiler: Long rant, sorry.

Hey folks. Much of what I am going to say is common sense, but I'd still like to say it.
I am an on site watchman for a logging company currently under contract to log within a national forest. I often have hunters, target shooters, and people just out exploring up here.
If you come upon a logging operation out in the mountains, obey the signs. If they have a watchman on site, stop and talk to them, especially if the watchman has a sign on the road that says to check in before proceeding. We have places we don't want the general public to go due to safety and security concerns. I will chase you down, as 3 teens found out tonight when I chased them down at midnight to find they were up here stealing the signs from the logging operation which spans 5 miles. If it is public land, we (I at least) try to have as much accessible as possible while not putting a burden on the crew.
If someone on the site tells you that the section is currently closed due to the logging operation, please don't try to argue saying you know the laws/owner/ranger, we dont really care. I only close the section when having the public there would pose a safety risk like having your head cut off by the cables that are run across the roads or the trees that are falling down from the hillside, or maybe there is a shovel working in the middle of a 2 mile long single lane road with no where for it to get to the side safely. We put the safety of the crew and the public above your desire to go look and see if there is an elk in your favorite spot and having a ranger standing there won't really change our minds.
Having a CB in your vehicle is very helpful when on a FSR/approaching logging sites. Also, it will make me more inclined to allow you to go through/to places I won't let people without one.
If there is a logging operation on it, there will usually be a channel number (CB 36) on a board or tree at the start of the road to indicate what channel to be on. Call out when you enter the road, and mile markers which can be in different intervals (1/4, 1/2, etc) to ensure you don't come nose to nose with a log truck on a corner. Be aware that the channel may change along the road and some roads may have specific instructions posted on an advisory board to tell you what they want you to do.
Please, yield ROW to the trucks as they are bigger and harder to stop plus it is easier for you to reverse if needed. When you pull into a wide spot to let them pass, tell them you are out of the way if you have a CB.
If you come to a sign that says overhead lines and has a channel number, stop at the sign and switch to that channel then ask permission to go under the line. Not all companies have flaggers (the other part of my job), but the practice of no flaggers for working overhead lines is usually just on privately owned land but a FSR may pass through.
Watchmen like myself keep an eye out for people who trash a place, we also pay attention to those who clean it up. I am far more inclined to move a bulldozer out of the way for someone that I have seen up here on a weekend who hauled out a bag of trash than I am for someone who left one behind.
Our human contact is often limited, we enjoy it that way. If you are approached by or approach a watchman, your attitude often dictates the outcome. If you come at me angry and cussing at me because you had to stop at my sign, I may say the entire section is closed out of safety concerns. If you are polite, I may tell you to use caution and not to stop between markers X and Y because there have been a number of rock or tree falls. Plus, if you stop and tell me that you are going to be in a certain spot or stretch looking for a deer/elk, I will ask how long you think you will be up there so I don't go driving up there making a lot of noise. Instead, I will just ask that you not go beyond mile marker Z because there is equipment blocking the road a quarter mile beyond and I might even say I saw something at a certain spot when I was up there an hour ago. But if you just blow past, I will play Ride Of The Valkyries on my loudspeaker as I drive up behind you.

Anyways, this rant is because I had to chase a group of thieves down at midnight after going to sleep at 9 and my 12hr day job starts in 30min with 3hr sleep for the second night this week.

Stay safe.

Thanks, HotRod! Good stuff to know.

I suspect a lot of the vandalism and dumping happens in the forest at night. It's too bad the forest agencies don't have watchmen like you out all over our forests to deter this from happening.

You sound like a reasonable and responsible guy. I appreciate your work! Stick to your guns!

Bill

 

[HotRodGuy]

Thanks Bill.
I've confronted people that were dumping on public land. Had one that was dumping a full 5x8 trailer load one night. Made him load it all back in while I had my dash cam aimed at him with all my light bars on lighting the area up. Escorted him down to the pavement where I had a deputy waiting to get the memory card to get the video.
It's people like that who get sections shut down for legal activities and it makes me quite unhappy. One site I was on, I even made the crew come back after it was completed to clean up the the trash they had left behind.

 

[Mikej]

Spoiler: Long rant, sorry.

Hey folks. Much of what I am going to say is common sense, but I'd still like to say it.
I am an on site watchman for a logging company currently under contract to log within a national forest. I often have hunters, target shooters, and people just out exploring up here.
If you come upon a logging operation out in the mountains, obey the signs. If they have a watchman on site, stop and talk to them, especially if the watchman has a sign on the road that says to check in before proceeding. We have places we don't want the general public to go due to safety and security concerns. I will chase you down, as 3 teens found out tonight when I chased them down at midnight to find they were up here stealing the signs from the logging operation which spans 5 miles. If it is public land, we (I at least) try to have as much accessible as possible while not putting a burden on the crew.
If someone on the site tells you that the section is currently closed due to the logging operation, please don't try to argue saying you know the laws/owner/ranger, we dont really care. I only close the section when having the public there would pose a safety risk like having your head cut off by the cables that are run across the roads or the trees that are falling down from the hillside, or maybe there is a shovel working in the middle of a 2 mile long single lane road with no where for it to get to the side safely. We put the safety of the crew and the public above your desire to go look and see if there is an elk in your favorite spot and having a ranger standing there won't really change our minds.
Having a CB in your vehicle is very helpful when on a FSR/approaching logging sites. Also, it will make me more inclined to allow you to go through/to places I won't let people without one.
If there is a logging operation on it, there will usually be a channel number (CB 36) on a board or tree at the start of the road to indicate what channel to be on. Call out when you enter the road, and mile markers which can be in different intervals (1/4, 1/2, etc) to ensure you don't come nose to nose with a log truck on a corner. Be aware that the channel may change along the road and some roads may have specific instructions posted on an advisory board to tell you what they want you to do.
Please, yield ROW to the trucks as they are bigger and harder to stop plus it is easier for you to reverse if needed. When you pull into a wide spot to let them pass, tell them you are out of the way if you have a CB.
If you come to a sign that says overhead lines and has a channel number, stop at the sign and switch to that channel then ask permission to go under the line. Not all companies have flaggers (the other part of my job), but the practice of no flaggers for working overhead lines is usually just on privately owned land but a FSR may pass through.
Watchmen like myself keep an eye out for people who trash a place, we also pay attention to those who clean it up. I am far more inclined to move a bulldozer out of the way for someone that I have seen up here on a weekend who hauled out a bag of trash than I am for someone who left one behind.
Our human contact is often limited, we enjoy it that way. If you are approached by or approach a watchman, your attitude often dictates the outcome. If you come at me angry and cussing at me because you had to stop at my sign, I may say the entire section is closed out of safety concerns. If you are polite, I may tell you to use caution and not to stop between markers X and Y because there have been a number of rock or tree falls. Plus, if you stop and tell me that you are going to be in a certain spot or stretch looking for a deer/elk, I will ask how long you think you will be up there so I don't go driving up there making a lot of noise. Instead, I will just ask that you not go beyond mile marker Z because there is equipment blocking the road a quarter mile beyond and I might even say I saw something at a certain spot when I was up there an hour ago. But if you just blow past, I will play Ride Of The Valkyries on my loudspeaker as I drive up behind you.

Anyways, this rant is because I had to chase a group of thieves down at midnight after going to sleep at 9 and my 12hr day job starts in 30min with 3hr sleep for the second night this week.

Stay safe.

Great story, thanks! I'm appalled at the way that portion of the public treats our forests.

 

[Rem700..300]

Great day up on Mary's Peak. The fresh snow was fun and pretty. Down the 3000 line we cleaned up the big lower gravel pad. Bunch of junk, shotgun shells and old plywood. Cleaned it all up and even brought home the old wood because it was a major eye sore. Also checked out the landing up on the hill just below the power lines. Made the mistake of looking over the edge. A lot a house/camping trash. Who ever it was had a love for Seagrams seven. Mutiple empty bottles. Stopped at the bottom parking lot to strap the load down and Tracy looked over the side again. A big pile of clothes that werent too horrible but really wet and smelly. Fun part was the 3 bags of hyperdermic needles mixed in. Lucky they were all in the factory bags except a few. Still added up to 2 large trash bags. Rubber gloves and go slow. It is all at the dump now. 500 plus pounds. No shooting today. Maybe next time.

 

[Cogs]

Thanks, Craig and Tracy! Trash No Land has a check in the mail to reimburse you for the disposal cost.

If anyone else needs help with the disposal cost for trash removal at shooting sites on public lands, send me a message! I hope this offer encourages someone to bite the bullet and chip in to help save our places to shoot.

Bill

 

[Cogs]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!

Love this gift from one of my sons, Tim. He had it custom made by Kennedy Outdoors, based in Longview, WA. Well done Kennedy crew and thank you Tim & Jessica!

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Lots of great outdoor gear on their website!
https://www.kennedyoutdoors.com/

 

[Cosimel]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!

Love this gift from one of my sons, Tim. He had it custom made by Kennedy Outdoors, based in Longview, WA. Well done Kennedy crew and thank you Tim & Jessica!

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Lots of great outdoor gear on their website!
https://www.kennedyoutdoors.com/

SWEET !!!