National I'm Not Accusing All Medical Professionals, But When They Come At Us A Group...

[DuneHopper]

Respectfully ...

We have reached the point where one needs to be careful speaking to strangers. Especially institutions having absolute power over one's health. This means the heath industry. Strange doctors. Strange RNs or other health care professionals not personally known to you.
An Old Coot goes in for routine hospital tests. The lady doing the medical history was nice but very sneaky. The interview was a mix of medical stuff and a police interview. Not quite an interrogation but beginning to learn that way. Leading open questions repeated.
Do you operate machinery? What kind? Is it heavy machinery? What kind? Does such involved impacts upon your body? Bumps? Violent repetitive motions? Motions like shooting a shotgun. Heart related questions. Do you enjoy shooting sporting clays? Other guns?
See where they are leading to? The Old Coot had to play act and lead the questioning gently away from the yellow brick road. Many times she tried to get back on track. Gently she was led away. Again be very careful talking to any stranger now a days. Sad but true.
Retired RN

Anxiety, is enough to have your firearms taken away, but its not enough to kick legislators out of their seats as many are Prozac and opiate pill poppers.

 

[Mikej]

Show me a Doctor that can change f-n tire and I might listen, Doctors are part of the elite and only the remote few that listen to their patients know anything about people. The doctors I have know are ignorant morons. They may know medicine, but are dumber then a bag of rocks when it comes to regular life.


Doctors are not wizards or magicians. They simply take know science and apply it, much of what they learned in college become irrelevant just years later.
And they sure as hell do not know about the constitution, hell they barely follow their own oaths.

Your painting with a pretty broad brush there cowboy. There's a lot of folks around my parts that believe residents of Oregon South of Eugene are redneck hillbillies that bed down with live stock. But I know that's probably a very small number.

 

[DuneHopper]

Your painting with a pretty broad brush there cowboy. There's a lot of folks around my parts that believe residents of Oregon South of Eugene are redneck hillbillies that bed down with live stock. But I know that's probably a very small number.

Unfortunately, my past employments had me knee deep in mental health, addictions, and physical illnesses.
There are some good doctors, I am aware.
There are also many good firearms owners, of whom many didn't vote this year either so are they stupid firearms owners or careless with their rights? Either way makes us all look stupid.

I am a equal opportunity offender , more often then not firearms owners and their acts cause more harm then good.
Why there is a good amount of good, there are many that are ignorant about the use of a firearm and that what we see on the news.

I kid you not, I saw a doctor. with my sons a specialist mind you. As we are sitting there he is looking sh*t up on WebMD, I saw this happen with a another specialist I saw. I was like really? What do they do watch Youtube video to learn how to do a Colonoscopy ??

Many doctors in my opinion are over rated, and under trained, to get paid 280.00 for 10 minute visits. And spend that time looking up sh*t online LOL wow.

 

[Mikej]

Unfortunately, my past employments had me knee deep in mental health, addictions, and physical illnesses.
There are some good doctors, I am aware.
There are also many good firearms owners, of whom many didn't vote this year either so are they stupid firearms owners or careless with their rights? Either way makes us all look stupid.

I am a equal opportunity offender , more often then not firearms owners and their acts cause more harm then good.
Why there is a good amount of good, there are many that are ignorant about the use of a firearm and that what we see on the news.

I kid you not, I saw a doctor. with my sons a specialist mind you. As we are sitting there he is looking sh*t up on WebMD, I saw this happen with a another specialist I saw. I was like really? What do they do watch Youtube video to learn how to do a Colonoscopy ??

Many doctors in my opinion are over rated, and under trained, to get paid 280.00 for 10 minute visits. And spend that time looking up sh*t online LOL wow.

I'd have to defer somewhat to your experience then! I know a couple of doctors personally, not professionally. The guys are sharp as tacks and totally hip. Then we have our own @bolus who is a pretty damned sharp guy. I can't say for sure the doctors I know personally are gun guys, I just know they are not idiots and from what I see would trust them to work on me.

And don't forget, the doctor doesn't get that $280.00 for the 10 minutes. And their malpractice insurance? Yeah.

 

[bbbass]

Yup, it's important to find a doctor that will converse with you. My wife had bad luck with too many doctors that had their beaks stuck in a laptop instead of listening to her. For some reason, we seem to have better luck with PAs.

 

[HB of CJ]

My personal MD Elk hunts. He talks about his .338 Win Mag. He brought into the office a bunch of frozen elk meat. Gave me some. Yumm yumm. I believe as I write this he is somewhere with his hand cannon hunting something.

 

[Member 5605]

Notwithstanding the images from the doctors that preform abortions..

So yeah,.... they can smoke something and go chill while pointing fingers.

 

[arakboss]

Yup, it's important to find a doctor that will converse with you. My wife had bad luck with too many doctors that had their beaks stuck in a laptop instead of listening to her. For some reason, we seem to have better luck with PAs.

Pediatricians will converse with you. It starts off with something casual like "Do you have any guns in the house?"

 

[po18guy]

The old shell game!
98,000 die each year from medical malpractice! Physician, heal thyself!

This all smells of Soros...

 

[arakboss]

Anxiety, is enough to have your firearms taken away, but its not enough to kick legislators out of their seats as many are Prozac and opiate pill poppers.

I have anxiety about them taking my guns away, is that cause for them to take my guns away?

 

[ma96782]

A short time before OBAMA CARE became the law. I can remember my Doctor asking me about my gun ownership and gun storage in my home. Humm......I remember that the NRA had mentioned this was happening across the nation. Then, the AMA and other Health Care folks backed OBAMA CARE.

So....of course I added 1+1 and figured where all of that was going. Rrrright…… The LEFT was trying to get taxpayers (via the Dems in Congress) to fund CDC Research on guns/safety. LOL......like as if, doctors would be seen as non-political in a political debate.

My personal doctor was a gun owner himself and a Nat Guard Member. LOL...I didn't actually mind talking about guns with him.

But.....I always remember that I felt uneasy at first, Afteral, I wasn't there to discuses gun politics with him.

Aloha, Mark

 

[po18guy]

Pediatricians will converse with you. It starts off with something casual like "Do you have any guns in the house?"

When they ask if I have firearms in my home, I answer "No!"
"I do have a couple on me though..."

 

[bbbass]

Pediatricians will converse with you. It starts off with something casual like "Do you have any guns in the house?"

Not looking for a shoot-the-bull type conversations... but you know, one that addresses the reason I am there, my report of symptoms, my concerns, my questions. A MEDICAL conversation! We're tired of wasting our time and money on bureaucratic ineffectiveness!! Let them ask about my guns, I won't tell them anything anyway, as long as I can get effective discourse about my medical issues.

 

[billdeserthills]

I am sure the pictures from vehicle accidents are more gruesome but I haven't seen the medical professionals banning together to encourage "Vehicle Bans"?

Doctors are just looking for a scapegoat, cause they know every modern mass shooter was prescribed ssri's

 

[Caveman Jim]

Yup, it's important to find a doctor that will converse with you. My wife had bad luck with too many doctors that had their beaks stuck in a laptop instead of listening to her. For some reason, we seem to have better luck with PAs.

I hate that!!!!
Look at me when I'm talkin to ya so I know you understood what I just told you...
Providence is very bad for that, I have fired 3 of those yuppie typist & finally got an older Dr with long hair & a beard & the SOB retired this spring..... GRRRRR

 

[corpsman]

Retired RN. There is a sort of institutionalized arrogance among physicians that appears to be rooted in the notion that an appearance of confidence equals competence. Take that a step farther. Be a vet using the VA. The numbers I have heard with respect to vets dying while waiting for standard care are horrifying. And the progressive/fascists want government mandated care and insurance. Ugh. When I deal with a physician with a laptop asking me questions like how many weapons do you have, I sneer and ask if their computers are stored a safe where innocent children can not touch them and if the batteries are stored separately. Quick way to parse the fools from competent practitioners. On the other hand, there is far to much information to be considered so having a data bank in hand makes sense... so long as that approach is not the primary M.O. Incident a few years back. Was assaulted by a schizophrenic and was diagnosed with a contusion to the left chest in the ER. Next day, went to a chiropractor who did x-rays and identified 5 fractured ribs which was what I had been telling the ER MD.

 

[po18guy]

I am one of the moderators on a cancer forum. Daily I see the complications and lack of service provided by national health care systems, from Australia, to Canada to New Zealand to the UK. Such systems, aside from being woefully wasteful and slow, do work for 95% of the people 95% of the time. Fall outside of that range and you risk ending up dead. I would be long gone had I been under such a system.

I ran for my life from an incompetent PCP and oncologist. I have zero doubt that I was providentially guided to a Fred Hutchinson research hematologist who knows well that he does not know everything. His favorite quote is one attributed to Albert Einstein: "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research." Propelled by this attitude, he has saved my life at least three times.

 

[failsafe]

Hey firefighters when was the last time you had to break out the jaws of life to extricate somebody from a gunshot wound?

Never. Never recovered a dead cat from a tree either.

But, I beg people every day to ignore thier phone while driving.

And I really wish people would quit having heart attacks. But - fast food, sugar, and netflix is so good.

Also, if everyone could quit smoking and drinking so damn much that'd be nice.

 

[po18guy]

Causes of death from the Center for Disease Control website:

• Heart disease: 635,260
• Cancer: 598,038
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 154,596
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 142,142
• Alzheimer's disease: 116,103
• Diabetes: 80,058
• Influenza and pneumonia: 51,537
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,046
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,965

So, 2 MILLION thirty four thousand one hundred nineteen dead are far less important to address than the 11,000 firearm homicides? Especially when many of those 11,000 are committed by felons who should already be in jail from previous crimes? To me it is clear that the left hates the innocent and loves the guilty.

Hey progressives! Sometimes it's best to go commando when one's undergarments are in a bunch.

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[nwslopoke]

Sounds like pushups and jogging should be mandated by the state and every household should be limited to one vehicle. That would make a serious dent in the 2 million lives lost in the US before we even get to gun violence.