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Make a five-year plan.

In general it would be thusly:

For five years, crews would actively scour all of the dead fall, under brush, and trash from the forests. Utilize prison labor like they did in the 70s and into the 80's for both clean up, and fire-fighting as necessary. They would also be cutting fire-breaks near developments and the borders of private lands to minimize the spread of wild fires.

After a given section of forest was cleared, that area would be designated a "natural burn zone" and allowed to burn itself out, which would become the standard practice moving forward. Fire-fighting resources would only be used to stop wild fires near developments (state parks for example) or cities.

Make land owners responsible for managing their land, but require fire-breaks for all properties over 5 acres, and underbrush clearing within 500 feet of any property boundary to curb the chance of a fire that breaks out on the private property jumping to public lands or adjoining private properties. Give property tax break for those rural land owners that install hydrants throughout their properties that can be used by fire fighters or the property owner themselves in the event of a wildfire - this would be extremely useful in cases where tankers run dry and would have to travel to god-knows-where for refilling, versus utilizing water already there.

At some point you need to let nature do nature's thing - but because of mismanagement of natural resources, those fires have gotten worse and worse. The wackaloons blame "climate change" when in fact it has been poor resource management - not carbon emissions that has lead to these disastrous fires. Once the forests are cleared of all the excess brush and deadfall , they'll return to a more balanced, natural state soon enough, and the fires won't be nearly as devastating.
 
Hopefully there will not be pushback against more prescribed burning. It is badly needed.

We're talking politicians. The only way to stop forest fires is by raising taxes and banning skeery guns.
 
I have no idea how to manage a forest. I would, therefore, give management of said forests over to people who do, supposedly, know how to manage forests.

And should they get it wrong, they should be held financially accountable. Meaning of course, that they are financially credible in the first place. Which pretty much rules out the Government.
 
I have no idea how to manage a forest. I would, therefore, give management of said forests over to people who do, supposedly, know how to manage forests.

And should they get it wrong, they should be held financially accountable. Meaning of course, that they are financially credible in the first place. Which pretty much rules out the Government.
The forest managed themselves for many millions (maybe billions) of years before we came along. Now that we decided to manage them, it would seem prudent to follow natures methods whenever possible. That included lots or regular wildfires. We have been suppressing those for many decades now. That has resulted in lots of unburned fuel stacking up in our forest. We can make efforts to strengthen patches and communities in the forest but sometimes you just have to let fires burn.
 

Forest service accidentally starts a huge fire, then, learning nothing, they do it again. Keep matches away from these people.


"... the agency said on Friday.... Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a 'burn pile' of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited.... That blaze on April 22 merged with the Hermits Peak Fire, which the USFS started with a controlled burn that went out of control on April 6, the agency previously reported.... Blazing a more than 40-mile-long... path up the Sangre de Cristo mountains, the fire has destroyed watersheds and forests used for centuries by Indo-Hispano farming villages and Native American communities."
Full, sad story here.

"Indo-Hispano?" Let's force everyone into categories, shall we? More woke idiocy.
 

Forest service accidentally starts a huge fire, then, learning nothing, they do it again. Keep matches away from these people.


"... the agency said on Friday.... Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a 'burn pile' of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited.... That blaze on April 22 merged with the Hermits Peak Fire, which the USFS started with a controlled burn that went out of control on April 6, the agency previously reported.... Blazing a more than 40-mile-long... path up the Sangre de Cristo mountains, the fire has destroyed watersheds and forests used for centuries by Indo-Hispano farming villages and Native American communities."
Full, sad story here.

"Indo-Hispano?" Let's force everyone into categories, shall we? More woke idiocy.
 
After a trip through central Oregon seeing a good number of forests that experienced fire in 2020 we saw the effects of prescribed burns and plain old forest fires. We went through the center of the Ochoco National Forest on hwy 26. There were scenes where fire had burned, completely killing, the tall ponderosa's. There were places where some survived with seriously burned bark and others that had been killed, cut down, and removed. And some areas where most of the ponderosa trees survived with only lightly scorched bark.
Around Bend to La Pine they were prescribed burning. It was pretty ugly. But, the forest floors where they had burned last year, or years before that were beautiful, lush and green with low under growth.
Heading West thought Sisters, there at the eastern foot of The Cascade's, there were some ponderosa forests that had been prescribed burned and some that had not. The forest floor where burns had been done were lush and beautiful with low undergrowth. you could tell where they'd prescribed bur because of lightly scorched bark low on the trees.
Going north from hwy 20, on 22, up to the town of Detroit we got to see untouched forest where the under growth is so thick and tall you can't see anything through the forests below 6'-10' high.
Getting closer to Detroit you come to see completely dead forest. A lot of trees that were felled have been taken out. And there are still stacks of dead trees to be removed.
Something that was obvious after seeing where these different fires burned was the degree of heat generated by the different fires, and how they left forest floors afterward. Some of those bubblegummers left the forest floor Sterile! It's been two years and there's virtually nothing growing where these fires burned hottest.
Come to the town of Detroit and is looks like most of the houses have been replaced. Of course I doubt any of the houses look anything like the neat little houses that were there in town beore the fires. What was surreal was that there wasn't a tree standing in the center of town. Nothing but stumps here and there. I didn't have a desire to take a slow drive through the streets of town.
The road up to Brightenbush is still closed.

My take away? Whoever has been overseeing the forests of Oregon for the last 40 years should be loaded into canoes, with out paddles and sent down the Willamette River over the falls during high water.

Almost forgot. It's been 30 years, or so, since wifey and I camped at Crain Prairie res. We took time to go take a look at the resort and camp ground. I remember back then coming into the lake from the back side. The beetle killed/dying trees and that massive deadfall under all those trees. It looks like TONS of that stuff has been removed. Thankfully.
 

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