Poll: If you have an SBR, was it worth the hassle?

[Knebel]

I want that bottom dollar.


"The other good news for Mr. Wright — besides the not guilty verdict — is that while the entire ordeal was no doubt extremely stressful, his defense didn't cost him a thing. Wright was represented by a court-appointed attorney and came away owing not a dime. The cherry on top is that the ATF and US Attorney were publicly embarrassed for prosecuting a frivolous case, one with a couple of gaping legal holes that never should have seen the inside of a court room."

ATF Suffers Rare Court Loss in Ohio Unregistered 'Short Barrel Rifle' Prosecution - The Truth About Guns

This is absolutely the stupidest thing ever. .25inch too long of pull according to their wrong way of measuring. Do they not have real criminals to prosecute?

 

[wired]

This is absolutely the stupidest thing ever. .25inch too long of pull according to their wrong way of measuring. Do they not have real criminals to prosecute?

They could kill your wife ( while holding your baby ) and son for making a 1/4" too short shotgun that they paid you to make. Oh wait , that's been done already.

 

[Member 34319]

They could kill your wife ( while holding your baby ) and son for making a 1/4" too short shotgun that they paid you to make. Oh wait , that's been done already.

 

[Member 34319]

An even better meme.

 

[Knebel]

They could kill your wife ( while holding your baby ) and son for making a 1/4" too short shotgun that they paid you to make. Oh wait , that's been done already.

I don't understand.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I don't understand.

Ruby ridge.

 

[Knebel]

Oh wow. I just read up on that. I didn't know this story (sorry not American native here). What a tragedy!

 

[FireArm]

ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol

 

[Bushman]

this is a tough one for me. i think id rather build a pistol and save the $200 for reloading supplies and NOT have my weapon be on a federal registry. also, you being in washington, it is my understanding that if you have your CPL, an AR pistol is ok to have loaded in your truck but a rifle isnt?


personally, my thoughts are the NFA shouldnt be a thing. if youre law abiding then you should own whatever you want.

theres an illegal black market for everything and its probably not as hard as one would think for a criminal to illegally obtain weapons.

This. Your big difference is a rifle stock. With pistol braces these days being pretty dang good and the fact that you can carry the AR pistol with your permit concealed but not the SBR, you're better off with the pistol. Plus traveling around the country from what I understand is an issue with the SBR...not so much for the pistol.

 

[wired]

This. Your big difference is a rifle stock. With pistol braces these days being pretty dang good and the fact that you can carry the AR pistol with your permit concealed but not the SBR, you're better off with the pistol. Plus traveling around the country from what I understand is an issue with the SBR...not so much for the pistol.

Look at the honey badger atf ruling released today and restate your opinion.

 

[Knebel]

Hm. why would they rule that an SBR? Its a pistol with a brace...

 

[Wombat of Doom]

It's the ATF where everything is made up and the points don't matter.

 

[Not BATFE]

Look at the honey badger atf ruling released today and restate your opinion.

Precisely why I chose to SBR over a pistol brace. I knew this was coming.

 

[Not BATFE]

Reply from ATF to Q regarding the matter

 

[Not BATFE]

SB Tactical is mentioned, by name. It would be silly right now not to think the ATF is eyeballing SB very closely...

 

[CountryGent]

Precisely why I chose to SBR over a pistol brace. I knew this was coming.

^. (Well, one of several reasons why I went registered SBR or SBS for short ones, but still a factor.)

 

[Bushman]

Look at the honey badger atf ruling released today and restate your opinion.

Did you actually READ the ruling? It applies to Q's Honey Badger pistol, not all AR pistols...lol.

ATF Rules Q's Honey Badger Pistol is a Short Barrel Rifle, Issues Cease and Desist Letter - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ Q, makers of the Honey Badger pistol, has just issued the following notice to its customers: Dear Customer: On August 3rd, 2020, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) issued Q® a formal Cease & Desist letter, notifying us that ATF has...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

From the link:


1. Complete one of the following:

A: Remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and dedicate it as a replacement
for another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle; or

B: If you do not possess another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle, remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and temporarily transfer it out of your possession by, for example, transferring it to the dominion and control of another individual; and

 

[wired]

Did you actually READ the ruling? It applies to Q's Honey Badger pistol, not all AR pistols...lol.

ATF Rules Q's Honey Badger Pistol is a Short Barrel Rifle, Issues Cease and Desist Letter - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ Q, makers of the Honey Badger pistol, has just issued the following notice to its customers: Dear Customer: On August 3rd, 2020, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) issued Q® a formal Cease & Desist letter, notifying us that ATF has...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Sure. Thats their opening salvo. Going to be difficult to disallow one and not the others from now on. Theyve been getting ready for this for a while. Legal ducks in a row etc. The ATF is about to get on a roll. .The ultimate head of the ATF, Trump, doesnt give a damn about any of this stuff.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Sure. Thats their opening salvo. Going to be difficult to disallow on and not the others from now on. Theyve been getting ready for this for a while. Legal ducks in a row etc. The ATF is about to get on a roll. .

Indeed. I sense a couple more stamps in my future.

 

[Not BATFE]

Indeed. I sense a couple more stamps in my future.

I have two pending. Jesus. This is gonna get expensivo.