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If I live in Washington State can I buy a shotgun from through private seller in OR?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Tomoizle, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Tomoizle

    Tomoizle Vancouver, Washington, United States Active Member

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    I want to buy a shotgun from someone in Oregon but i live in Washington and am wondering do I need to go through FFL or can i just buy it and bring it back to washington? Thanks I been reading around and it was pretty confusing... I know that for Handgun i need to go through FFL but what about Shotgun and rifle through private seller in Oregon when I am a washington resident.
     
  2. james83

    james83 beaverton oregon I'am feeling fat and sassy

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    Any firearm sale across statelines must go through an FFL. Unless the firearm is a C&R, Curio&relic in which case the firearm can be mailed to a person with a C&R licence.

    That is my understanding of the law.
     
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  4. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    You can ONLY buy FTF IN state. Out of state you can ONLY buy long guns and ONLY though an FFL. ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

    So you can go to OR and buy a long gun ONLY but if from a private party you will have to go with that person to an FFL to have it transferred. This is assuming you want to stay 100% legal.
     
  5. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    UUUMMMM a C&R is an FFL license, it is an 03 vs 01 for dealers...........
     
  6. Tomoizle

    Tomoizle Vancouver, Washington, United States Active Member

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    Thanks for the info! ALL of this gun law is confusing..... Wow and the fee for FFL is like another 40 dollars eh? That makes all the saving from buying the gun.....
    Was gonna buy a ruger 10/22 and a Savage 311D from 1962.... Do all of you guys stay 100% legal? lol
     
  7. Tomoizle

    Tomoizle Vancouver, Washington, United States Active Member

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    If i buy a shotgun or rifle from a local resident (washington) Do I need FFL or do i just buy it and go?
     
  8. james83

    james83 beaverton oregon I'am feeling fat and sassy

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    If you are both residents of the same state a sale or transfare does not need to go through a FFL

    A C&R license is not a FFL as such, It is just a permit that enables you to receive Firearms that are classed as CURIO&RELICS
     
  9. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Funny I guess I got confused when the ATF listed it as "Federal Firearms License (FFL) Types", ATF Online - Statistics - Listing of Federal Firearms Licensees

    So does that mean you think all the other FFL's are not FFL's also?

    When you transfer C&R firearms out of state to an 03 FFL you are transferring it to an FFL not to an unlicensed person.
     
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    rawen2 Portland Area Active Member

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    "A Cut Above Pawn" in Beaverton and Willamette Valley Arms in Hillsboro each charge $20 for a transfer. And $10 of that goes to the state police for the required background check.
     
  11. james83

    james83 beaverton oregon I'am feeling fat and sassy

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    Ok I'am wrong. A C&R license is an FFL. But it still only permits you to receive firearms that are classed as curio&relics.

    Thanks Nwcid I learned something new
     
  12. Tomoizle

    Tomoizle Vancouver, Washington, United States Active Member

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    Happy to hear people are learning from my post as I am also :)..... What is the cheapest FFL place in vancouver? So to make this clear if i buy a gun in oregon either a handgun or shotgun, I should go to a FFL place and transfer it to my name? Or should i go to my resident FFL State to transfer it to my name?
     
  13. james83

    james83 beaverton oregon I'am feeling fat and sassy

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    If the owner of the gun you wanted to buy lives in say ...Portland OR, You would meet the owner of the gun at a FFL in say Portland OR, And then the FFL would run a background check and then transfare the gun. Then you could legally take the gun across statelines into Washington.

    Hope that helps
     
  14. nubus

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    Only if it is a rifle or shotgun.
    Pistols must run through an FFL in your state of residence.
     
  15. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Sorry just reread my post and they come off kinda blunt, late night posting.

    But a 01 FFL still ONLY permits you to do certain things, an 07 still ONLY permits you do certain things. That is the thing with ALL licenses they ONLY allow you to do certain things........... In this case a 03 FFL allows you to buy 03 ie C&R firearms across state lines, nothing more or less. It is what is it for.
     
  16. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    For private party transfers you should use a FFL 01 or 02 in YOUR state.

    For example, I live in Oregon and recently bought a rifle from a Washington resident. I found a FFL (Money Market 13607 SE POWELL BLVD Portland, OR 97236) in Oregon that was most conveniently located for the seller to handle the transfer. I met the seller there and we completed the transfer.

    If I had a FFL 03 I could have skipped the process since the rifle qualifies as a Curio & Relic.

    An easy way to find a transfer dealer is to go to GunBroker.com - FFL Holder Network You can enter your ZIP code and find the dealers closest to you.
     
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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    That's what I did when buying an AK-74 in Portland from a private seller. Met at a gun shop, inspected the weapon, paid the seller, filled out the paperwork, paid the FFL fee and brought it home in Vancouver
     
  18. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I think if said shotgun is classified as an "antique", if there is such a thing, it could be exempted from GCA, depending on local laws.