If Egypt Falls

[dmancornell]

So what you are saying is that Israel existed in the 1930's-40's?
Because Iran (formaly Persia, they changed thier country's name to "Aryan") and The Muslim Brotherhood activley supported the Axis Powers with sabotage, spys, bases and troops against the Allied Powers before and during WW2.
You really need a history lesson

I think you're the one who needs a history lesson, because the shiite Iranians and sunni MB have nothing to do with each other. The British/Soviets invaded neutral Iran for refusing to evict German civilians during WW2, so I can understand their resentment. The sunni MB only supported the Axis because they wanted the British out of Egypt/Middle East, which had been a British imperialist colony for over 50 years at that point. Of course they were stupid for thinking Hitler would be any better.

Also are you implying the Allies are the "good guys"? Protip: Stalin was really bad, FDR was a gullible idiot and despicable statist and Churchill was a war pig.

 

[knuckle Head]

I think you're the one who needs a history lesson, because the shiite Iranians and sunni MB have nothing to do with each other. The British/Soviets invaded neutral Iran for refusing to evict German civilians during WW2, so I can understand their resentment. The sunni MB only supported the Axis because they wanted the British out of Egypt/Middle East, which had been a British imperialist colony for over 50 years at that point. Of course they were stupid for thinking Hitler would be any better.

Also are you implying the Allies are the "good guys"? Protip: Stalin was really bad, FDR was a gullible idiot and despicable statist and Churchill was a war pig.

NameMain articles: Iran (word) and Name of Iran
The name of Iran (ایرا&#1606 is the Modern Persian derivative from the Proto-Iranian term Aryānā,, meaning "Land of the Aryans", first attested in Zoroastrianism's Avesta tradition.[29][30][31][32] The term Ērān is found to refer to Iran in a 3rd century Sassanid inscription, and the Parthian inscription that accompanies it uses the Parthian term "aryān" in reference to Iranians.[33] However historically Iran has been referred to as Persia or similar (La Perse, Persien, Perzië, etc.) by the Western world, mainly due to the writings of Greek historians who called Iran Persēs (Πέρση&#962, meaning land of the Persians. In 1935 Rezā Shāh requested that the international community should refer to the country as Iran. Opposition to the name change led to the reversal of the decision, and in 1959 both names were to be used interchangeably.[34] Since the Iranian Revolution in 1979 the official name of the country has been the "Islamic Republic of Iran."

Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The first Pahlavi eraThe shelling of Iran's parliament by the Russians, and the signing of the 1919 Treaty, firmly planted the roots of suspicion against Britain and Russia. This was while many people were aware of Wilhelm II's speech in Damascus in 1898 calling on all Muslims to rely on him as a true friend.[7]

By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states.[8] Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges.[9]

The Shah went on to ask the international community to use the native name of "Iran" in 1935[10] to address to his country, which in Persian means 'Land of the Aryans' and refers to Airyanem Vaejah, the Avestan name of the original homeland of the Aryans. Although the country has been known as Iran to the native people themselves for many centuries, Westerners came to know the nation as Persia through Ancient Greek accounts. Iranians were immune to the racial Nuremberg Laws on the grounds that they were pure blooded Aryans. In 1939, Nazi Germany provided Iran with what they called a Germany Scientific Library. The library contained over 7500 books selected "to convince Iranian readers...of the kinship between the National Socialist Reich and the Aryan culture of Iran"(Lenczowski. 1944, p. 161). In various pro-Nazi publications, lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the Fuhrerprinzip (Rezun. 1982, p. 29).

From 1939 to 1941 Iran's top foreign trade partner (nearly 50% of its total trade) was Germany, which helped Iran open modern sea and air communications with the rest of the world.[11]

In 1941, the Allies forced Reza Shah to abdicate the throne to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. His pro-Nazi followers in the Iranian government such as Fazlollah Zahedi [12] and Mohammad Hosein Airom shared similar fates.

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there is a lot more data out there showing that Iran was in bed with Nazi's prior to WWII, when we went in there it was get rid of those Nzi's and their allies, I ran was supplying Germany with oil during WWII who declared war on us after the japanese attacked pearl harbor

Also Stalin was not the favorable person to ever live, but the enemy of my enemy is my ally. Yes we got in bed with a not so good of a country but theyhelped us defeat a country who declared war on us.

 

[dmancornell]

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Implying doing business or having pro-Nazi sympathies is justification for an invasion and occupation. Why not invade Switzerland, Argentina and Spain while you're at it? Related to OP, "the enemy of my enemy is my ally" is what made the US hated across the world, siding with tyrants like Stalin and Mubarak. Of course the realpolitik geniuses in the government couldn't care less how many people they murder or help murder as long as the US hegemony continues to operate.

I didn't know the US stands for imperialist wars, interventionism and world policing, but hey, I'm sure the Founding Fathers would have wholeheartedly supported such ventures.

 

[knuckle Head]

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Implying doing business or having pro-Nazi sympathies is justification for an invasion and occupation. Why not invade Switzerland, Argentina and Spain while you're at it? Related to OP, "the enemy of my enemy is my ally" is what made the US hated across the world, siding with tyrants like Stalin and Mubarak. Of course the realpolitik geniuses in the government couldn't care less how many people they murder or help murder as long as the US hegemony continues to operate.

I didn't know the US stands for imperialist wars, interventionism and world policing, but hey, I'm sure the Founding Fathers would have wholeheartedly supported such ventures.

You probably agree with this guy that 9/11 was an inside too '9/11 was an inside job': Full speech by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at UN - YouTube, you know he stated in other UN speeches that the holocaust never too, Guess what I have been to Dachau List of Nazi concentration camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know evil when I am standing in the middle of it.

And that eveything going wrong in the World is Israel's fault.

Is the US perfect no, but it best thing going and and it up to us to make better.

 

[dmancornell]

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So if you think US/British meddling in the ME is wrong, you must agree with Ahmaddinnerjacket and everything he says, 100%! Cool logic bro!

 

[knuckle Head]

just trying to figure out your thought process here, because I have done a lot of reading and research on WWII and stuff and lived in Germany during the cold war while serving in the army, and I am no fan of Russia, but it was necessary step to defeat the Nazi's, had we not helped England, Russia, Australia and yes the French, we be living under Nazi rule.

Sometimes you have to make a leegiance with not so good of people to survive evil. I did not like a lot of people I served with int he military, but I had their back and they had mine when SHTF, there are people I do not like work but when travel to ---------, well I cannot say, honestly cannot say, I go with people who will watch back and I watch theirs.

It's life and when shtf here you will think about these message boards because I garuantee you will be making alliances with those you would not give the time of day right now.

How do I know, been there, done that. When there is a common goal of survival, as long it is to your advantage you will do it.