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I spoke today with Floyd Prozanski on Oregon Universal Background Checks (UBC)

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by MrNatural, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. MrNatural

    MrNatural Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Floyd Prozanski is the primary advocate in the Oregon Senate of requiring government background checks (UBC) for ALL Oregon firearm transfers which is effectively total gun registration - the first step to confiscation.

    SHORT VERSION: Floyd Prozanski is intractable to logic on the subject. When I pointed out that UBC is in effect a camoflaged registration scheme, he pointedly did not see registration as a bad thing.

    Indeed his whole attitude was disbelief that anyone could possibly hold an opinion different from his on the subject. The mark of a true zealot.

    At last he asked "What's the difference between having background checks on dealer and gun show transfers and having them on ALL transfers?"

    I answered: "The difference between standing in three feet of water and eight feet of water."

    He didn't even blink. Further discussion seemed pointless.

    BOTTOM LINE: Floyd Prozanski is the dedicated enemy of every Oregon gun owner's rights. He cannot be convinced to change his advocacy of UBC. He can only be compelled.

    We must seek to compel him.

    FYI: Floyd Prozanski is a Democrat member of the Oregon State Senate, representing the 4th District. Senate District 4 includes parts of Lane and Douglas counties, including the communities of Eugene, Roseburg, Cottage Grove, Sutherlin, Oakland, Elkton and Oakridge. Prozanski serves as chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
     
  2. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I always wonder what it is in a man's heart that drives his in such a fashion. I can understand an attempt to witness to someone about Christianity for example, because there is a good motive behind that and when someone does not accept the message, then move on, but what drives a person like Floyd to such an extreme to want to force his personal belief on everyone to the point of incarceration for not bending to his will?
     
  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Tyranny, a delusional lust for power and the excersing of it for their ego's sake.

    Delusional in that they think they can actually legislate morality, and in the the end it will cost them... dearly.
     
  4. fuhr52

    fuhr52 Lane County. Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Has registering a gun ever stopped criminal activity? Would a registered gun have stopped the gunman at the Clackamas Town Center Shooting from stealing the gun he used? UBC is yet another "Look at me what a big caring heart I have". Floyd has such good intentions. Doesn't matter that UBC will have zero effect on crime.
     
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  5. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Gun registration has always and without exception led to confiscation. This is the ultimate goal of the Prozanskis and Burdicks of the world. Burdick is up next in 2016, Prozanski just got re-elected. Let's do what it takes to send them packing at the earliest opportunity.
     
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  6. fuhr52

    fuhr52 Lane County. Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Prozanski's voting district includes the Peoples Republic of Eugene. Not likely he's going anywhere anytime soon.
     
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  7. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Didn't say it would be easy, but what is both worthwhile and easy? I don't think he has faced any significant opposition. Burdick should be our first focal point as she runs next year.
     
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  8. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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  9. nextgenar

    nextgenar roseburg Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Floyd ProNazi may "represent" the 4th district, but I assure you, Douglas county, Roseburg,
    Sutherlin, Elkton, and Oakland did NOT vote this POS into office, so who does that leave? You guessed it. The Peoples Republic of Eugene. Once again the people of Southern and Eastern Oregon are forced to live under the rules a of a bunch of pot smoking washed up hippies left over from the 60s, including Mr. ProNazi!!! Maybe he should run for President and take Eva Braun Burdick with him! Then maybe our current President won't go down in history as the worst President of all time!!
     
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  10. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Sounds to me like he and others like him needs to be RECALLED!!!!!!:mad:
    Colorado did it without major gun rights orgs too!!!! Grass roots, mouth to mouth salesmanship!!!

    You should have asked him "how does he believe that he can represent ALL his constituency with a close minded attitude such as his"?:mad::mad:
     
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  11. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Still if those who truly love their cities, towns and counties branched out and really got the word out a recall would work, a lot of work yeah but isn't it worth the time and energy?o_O
     
  12. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Psychiatry refers to persons who defy logic with intractable and uncorrectable thinking as "thought disordered". Many antis are hysterics others suffer with idiosyncratic thinking. Interventions need to be political and social intimidation to change their behavior. jmho
     
  13. MichaelStrick9

    MichaelStrick9 Portland Member

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    I highly suggest videoing every encounter you have with these idiot politicians. Post it to YouTube so their stupidity is on display for the world to see!
     
  14. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I've wondered the same thing about 'Pink Floyd' and other hard core 'liberal' zealots. I've concluded that it's actually very simple: pure arrogance. They genuinely believe they are far, far smarter than the rest of the cattle out there and if the stupid masses would ONLY follow his / their lead, it'd all be better and we'd all hold hands and skip merrily into the sunset in peace and harmony. Those stupid people that cling to their religions, their guns, their beliefs are only idiotic obstacles to people like this, which is why you can't reason with them - you're beneath their blinding brilliance.

    His blind arrogance is only exceeded by his complete naivete, which is why people like this are so very, very dangerous. Facts don't matter when there's an agenda to further.
     
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    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    What I control -----a dot smaller than a period on this page.
    $upported Wehby, my neighbors voted for Merkley.
    Just a tiny Island in an ocean of stupid.
     
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  16. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    I'd add a few motives for some of our Oregon politicians. For Prozanski and Burdick, they have publicly testified that the laws they propose will have no impact whatsoever on crime. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that it's pandering to those who have lost loved ones to crime, and to further their own political careers. In Prozonskis' case, he wears his sisters death on his shirtsleeve to gain support for his crusade.

    By pandering to, and leveraging peoples grief and fear, they hope to gain a reputation for compassion, caring, and a sense of higher morality. Of course, the real reasons are nothing like this. It's purely politics and feeding their own egos.
     
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    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    Passing laws because they like them, ignoring the consequences, and grasping at straws to justify the hopped effectiveness. Yea... sounds like a really great legislature we have....

    As to their psyche , I thought this article was insightful in identifying the more rabid gun-control advocates:
    http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm
     
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  18. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Isn't that an interesting read. And not slamming anyone's political party??? Amaaaazing! I knew it could be done.
     
  19. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I've read that one before, and it's never really been about "party". It's about the evil schmucks who wrap themselves with religious, national, racial, socio-economic, or party "colors".

    Those are all just a means to an end, the end game is power and wealth. Hence the term, "united we stand, divided we fall".

    I wish more of our fellow countrymen would see that and adjust accordingly.
     
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    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    I would rather be friendly to Conservative "Religious Schmucks" who support Israel (The Tiny Jewish State) than to Progressive Socialist non practicing schmucks who want divestment and sanctions against Israel and better relations with Iran & Hezbollah...