I for one, welcome the Pink Pistols!

[HuckleberryFun]

Very cunning but maybe over the line just a bit - we want them on our side not alienated.

Joe, that's actually a direct quote from the article quoting one of the Pink Pistols talking about his AK. I was voicing my approval.

 

[U8395279]

Orlando shooting sparks new chapter of Pink Pistols LBGT gun group in West Hollywood Orlando shooting sparks new chapter of Pink Pistols LBGT gun group in West Hollywood | Fox News


I think is great and I hope they take off across the country. I for one support it and hope they find an outpouring of support across the country and get more people involved.

Clinton has been doing all that she can this election to link guns as being a threat to homosexuals. She has really leaned hard on the LGBT community this year to support her because of her tough anti-gun stance.

In Clinton's eyes, if you are gay, then you clearly hate guns. Just merely touching one would cause you to vaporize. Sort of like pouring water on the wicked witch.

Clinton, and all the anti-gun groups, have really worked hard to link guns with homophobia.

Protesters in Orlando:




Obama hopes to pass the torch to Hillary:

 

[Joe13]

Joe, that's actually a direct quote from the article quoting one of the Pink Pistols talking about his AK. I was voicing my approval.

Apologies, just trying to keep the thread from going sideways but I didn't see that in the article so jumped to conclusions.

 

[partsed]

"All those in favor of sending us to prison, raise your hands!!!"
I know it is off topic-but I couldn't resist after seeing the picture..

 

[soberups]

Reminds me of the famous quote that "politics makes for strange bedfellows."

All kidding aside I am glad to see more diversity among the ranks of gun owners. We need as much support as possible.

 

[tkdguy]

Pink pistols is a great idea. The pistol is for self-protection regardless of what ever color or what ever orientation. Any person in need of lawful self-protections gets that right--especially any person group that could be victimized because of sexual orientation, religion or what ever. If the Pink Pistols promote safe gun and user ownership we can all stand behind them as any other group. Hopefully Pink Pistols will spread the work to their friends. The more the merrier to protect the 2nd Amendment Rights for all.

 

[RicInOR]

As of Valentines day, they are still helping!

Pink Pistols offers firearm training to Orlando GLBTQ community because armed gays don't get bashed. "The thought of me holding a gun is terrifying"

After the Pulse shooting, there was an outcry for greater gun control, but the Pink Pistols believe firearms, or at least the threat of carrying a gun make them less of a target.

 

[Joe13]

I like purple better... just sayin

 

[MooThulhu]

I apologize but I'm going to rant a bit about this.

I am someone who falls into the the GLBT classification as is my partner (whoda thunk it ?) but I do NOT consider myself a part of the "GLBT Community" because, for the most part, I have found them to be a far more judgmental group than I have found in the communities they charge as "hateful".

Let me explain. I have always been fairly conservative. I grew up in Colorado Springs, Co, The home of Focus on the Family and more military bases than you can shake a bundle of sticks at (see what I did there, I kill me!). I didn't vote for Obama, and I voted for Trump (anything to keep that evil woman out of power *shudder*). I see the liberals that take money from Saudis as more of a threat to me and my way of life than any conservative who is concerned about bathrooms. I personally have always seen the crazy assless chaps, leading people on leashes, over-the-top bubblegum you see at the GLBT pride festivals as counterproductive. That kind of stuff belongs behind closed doors -- not on the streets. Respecting that other people don't want to be exposed to that kind of stuff (or their kids to be exposed to it) is just common decency. I don't think it's intolerant to not want to have to explain to your 9 year old what a 32 inch double donger is, but many in the GLBT community somehow have decided the best way for you to accept them as your normal decent neighbors is to act as indecent as they legally can. I think business owners have a right to say what goes on their property and who they serve. It is more than unfair to force them to serve people they are uncomfortable serving. I think hate crime legislation is counter productive because 1: You can't use the law to force someone to accept others. 2: All illegitimate use of force is equally abhorrent, no matter their reason for doing it. I think people have a right to say and think whatever they want. I am not afraid of ideas and no one else should be, either. I don't buy into the group-think and professional victim-hood of others who have the same proclivities as me. I grew up in Colorado Springs. Whenever I have found myself around folks who pride themselves as being outspoken members of the GLBT community, it is never more than a few minutes before I'm thinking to myself, "Ok, you like dick/cooter. Everyone in a 5 mile radius is aware of this. Can we move on to other topics?" (Milo gets a pass because he's funny).

But anyway, In my time I have gotten a couple other folks who happen to be GLBT out to the range and found that all of them enjoyed shooting. Most of them I was able to bring around to at least accepting that conservatives/gun owners are not their enemy. Sadly, the larger majority of people in that community immediately accuse me of being self-hating and not really one of them whenever I dared to question their narrative. Well, at least they are right on one thing: I'm not "One of them". I'm an American first, and all of that other bubblegum is just details.

 

[Joe13]

I apologize but I'm going to rant a bit about this.

I am someone who falls into the the GLBT classification as is my partner (whoda thunk it ?) but I do NOT consider myself a part of the "GLBT Community" because, for the most part, I have found them to be a far more judgmental group than I have found in the communities they charge as "hateful".

Let me explain. I have always been fairly conservative. I grew up in Colorado Springs, Co, The home of Focus on the Family and more military bases than you can shake a bundle of sticks at (see what I did there, I kill me!). I didn't vote for Obama, and I voted for Trump (anything to keep that evil woman out of power *shudder*). I see the liberals that take money from Saudis as more of a threat to me and my way of life than any conservative who is concerned about bathrooms. I personally have always seen the crazy assless chaps, leading people on leashes, over-the-top bubblegum you see at the GLBT pride festivals as counterproductive. That kind of stuff belongs behind closed doors -- not on the streets. Respecting that other people don't want to be exposed to that kind of stuff (or their kids to be exposed to it) is just common decency. I don't think it's intolerant to not want to have to explain to your 9 year old what a 32 inch double donger is, but many in the GLBT community somehow have decided the best way for you to accept them as your normal decent neighbors is to act as indecent as they legally can. I think business owners have a right to say what goes on their property and who they serve. It is more than unfair to force them to serve people they are uncomfortable serving. I think hate crime legislation is counter productive because 1: You can't use the law to force someone to accept others. 2: All illegitimate use of force is equally abhorrent, no matter their reason for doing it. I think people have a right to say and think whatever they want. I am not afraid of ideas and no one else should be, either. I don't buy into the group-think and professional victim-hood of others who have the same proclivities as me. I grew up in Colorado Springs. Whenever I have found myself around folks who pride themselves as being outspoken members of the GLBT community, it is never more than a few minutes before I'm thinking to myself, "Ok, you like dick/cooter. Everyone in a 5 mile radius is aware of this. Can we move on to other topics?" (Milo gets a pass because he's funny).

But anyway, In my time I have gotten a couple other folks who happen to be GLBT out to the range and found that all of them enjoyed shooting. Most of them I was able to bring around to at least accepting that conservatives/gun owners are not their enemy. Sadly, the larger majority of people in that community immediately accuse me of being self-hating and not really one of them whenever I dared to question their narrative. Well, at least they are right on one thing: I'm not "One of them". I'm an American first, and all of that other bubblegum is just details.

Nice

 

[etrain16]

I apologize but I'm going to rant a bit about this.

I am someone who falls into the the GLBT classification as is my partner (whoda thunk it ?) but I do NOT consider myself a part of the "GLBT Community" because, for the most part, I have found them to be a far more judgmental group than I have found in the communities they charge as "hateful".

Let me explain. I have always been fairly conservative. I grew up in Colorado Springs, Co, The home of Focus on the Family and more military bases than you can shake a bundle of sticks at (see what I did there, I kill me!). I didn't vote for Obama, and I voted for Trump (anything to keep that evil woman out of power *shudder*). I see the liberals that take money from Saudis as more of a threat to me and my way of life than any conservative who is concerned about bathrooms. I personally have always seen the crazy assless chaps, leading people on leashes, over-the-top bubblegum you see at the GLBT pride festivals as counterproductive. That kind of stuff belongs behind closed doors -- not on the streets. Respecting that other people don't want to be exposed to that kind of stuff (or their kids to be exposed to it) is just common decency. I don't think it's intolerant to not want to have to explain to your 9 year old what a 32 inch double donger is, but many in the GLBT community somehow have decided the best way for you to accept them as your normal decent neighbors is to act as indecent as they legally can. I think business owners have a right to say what goes on their property and who they serve. It is more than unfair to force them to serve people they are uncomfortable serving. I think hate crime legislation is counter productive because 1: You can't use the law to force someone to accept others. 2: All illegitimate use of force is equally abhorrent, no matter their reason for doing it. I think people have a right to say and think whatever they want. I am not afraid of ideas and no one else should be, either. I don't buy into the group-think and professional victim-hood of others who have the same proclivities as me. I grew up in Colorado Springs. Whenever I have found myself around folks who pride themselves as being outspoken members of the GLBT community, it is never more than a few minutes before I'm thinking to myself, "Ok, you like dick/cooter. Everyone in a 5 mile radius is aware of this. Can we move on to other topics?" (Milo gets a pass because he's funny).

But anyway, In my time I have gotten a couple other folks who happen to be GLBT out to the range and found that all of them enjoyed shooting. Most of them I was able to bring around to at least accepting that conservatives/gun owners are not their enemy. Sadly, the larger majority of people in that community immediately accuse me of being self-hating and not really one of them whenever I dared to question their narrative. Well, at least they are right on one thing: I'm not "One of them". I'm an American first, and all of that other bubblegum is just details.

Thanks for that post. As a conservative for most of my adult life, I find what you have to say very much in line with what I believe. I don't hate people in the LGBT group, but I, like you, dislike how they are shoving it down everyone's throats, demanding they accept them in every way, shape and form and refusing to allow folks who may have say, religious objections, from expressing their own views. And, as you say, they seem to go out of their way to be as vulgar as possible.

All I ask of any American citizen is that they respect my rights as I respect theirs. I'm straight, but if you're LGBT, fine, we can both peacefully coexist without forcing a view or belief on the other. I don't want men in the bathroom with my daughter, regardless of what they consider themselves, that may be a bit harsh, but I am responsible for protecting my daughter and that just, in my mind, opens the door to non-LGBT perverts that will exploit those laws (as some have already done). So, the obvious solution is private restrooms everywhere for everyone - no one gets left out, no one gets something forced on them. Seems an easy solution.

Undoubtedly there are things I believe and do that are of no interest to and even potentially offensive to others. As a conservative, I expect to get the ire of some on the left, but very few actually do that to me. Heck, I even get the ire of some on the far right that sometimes think I'm not conservative enough

What I try to maintain is that we are all American citizens and the rights we have as citizens should equally apply to all. Freedom of speech, expression, religion, RTKBA, property, etc. should apply equally to us all. AND everyone should use good judgment in not using their freedom to impose their will on another citizen, such as shouting down those with whom you don't believe.

Anyway, thank you for weighing in with your perspective, it is nice to see.

 

[Joe13]

Heck, I honestly preffer the any sex bathrooms - they almost never have a line of people waiting.

 

[Xaevian]

Now you see why I consider this one of the best firearms forums available. All are welcome. Diversity of thought, culture, age, whatever just makes for a stronger firearms community. Differences of opinion or anything else create dialogue, and it is okay to disagree, but intolerance and personal attacks are intolerable. We can all learn a lot from each other, and with an estimated 100 million gun owners in America (that's like 1/3) from left, right, demo, repub, white, non-white, gay, straight, whatever, it is silly to call us a special intetest. We are significant and make a difference. We ARE America. Thanks for sharing.

 

[bbbass]

Heck, I honestly preffer the any sex? bathrooms - they almost never have a line of people waiting.

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[Flopsweat]

I apologize but I'm going to rant a bit about this.

I am someone who falls into the the GLBT classification as is my partner (whoda thunk it ?) but I do NOT consider myself a part of the "GLBT Community" because, for the most part, I have found them to be a far more judgmental group than I have found in the communities they charge as "hateful".

Let me explain. I have always been fairly conservative. I grew up in Colorado Springs, Co, The home of Focus on the Family and more military bases than you can shake a bundle of sticks at (see what I did there, I kill me!). I didn't vote for Obama, and I voted for Trump (anything to keep that evil woman out of power *shudder*). I see the liberals that take money from Saudis as more of a threat to me and my way of life than any conservative who is concerned about bathrooms. I personally have always seen the crazy assless chaps, leading people on leashes, over-the-top bubblegum you see at the GLBT pride festivals as counterproductive. That kind of stuff belongs behind closed doors -- not on the streets. Respecting that other people don't want to be exposed to that kind of stuff (or their kids to be exposed to it) is just common decency. I don't think it's intolerant to not want to have to explain to your 9 year old what a 32 inch double donger is, but many in the GLBT community somehow have decided the best way for you to accept them as your normal decent neighbors is to act as indecent as they legally can. I think business owners have a right to say what goes on their property and who they serve. It is more than unfair to force them to serve people they are uncomfortable serving. I think hate crime legislation is counter productive because 1: You can't use the law to force someone to accept others. 2: All illegitimate use of force is equally abhorrent, no matter their reason for doing it. I think people have a right to say and think whatever they want. I am not afraid of ideas and no one else should be, either. I don't buy into the group-think and professional victim-hood of others who have the same proclivities as me. I grew up in Colorado Springs. Whenever I have found myself around folks who pride themselves as being outspoken members of the GLBT community, it is never more than a few minutes before I'm thinking to myself, "Ok, you like dick/cooter. Everyone in a 5 mile radius is aware of this. Can we move on to other topics?" (Milo gets a pass because he's funny).

But anyway, In my time I have gotten a couple other folks who happen to be GLBT out to the range and found that all of them enjoyed shooting. Most of them I was able to bring around to at least accepting that conservatives/gun owners are not their enemy. Sadly, the larger majority of people in that community immediately accuse me of being self-hating and not really one of them whenever I dared to question their narrative. Well, at least they are right on one thing: I'm not "One of them". I'm an American first, and all of that other bubblegum is just details.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[MooThulhu]

Thanks for that post. As a conservative for most of my adult life, I find what you have to say very much in line with what I believe. I don't hate people in the LGBT group, but I, like you, dislike how they are shoving it down everyone's throats, demanding they accept them in every way, shape and form and refusing to allow folks who may have say, religious objections, from expressing their own views. And, as you say, they seem to go out of their way to be as vulgar as possible.

All I ask of any American citizen is that they respect my rights as I respect theirs. I'm straight, but if you're LGBT, fine, we can both peacefully coexist without forcing a view or belief on the other. I don't want men in the bathroom with my daughter, regardless of what they consider themselves, that may be a bit harsh, but I am responsible for protecting my daughter and that just, in my mind, opens the door to non-LGBT perverts that will exploit those laws (as some have already done). So, the obvious solution is private restrooms everywhere for everyone - no one gets left out, no one gets something forced on them. Seems an easy solution.

Undoubtedly there are things I believe and do that are of no interest to and even potentially offensive to others. As a conservative, I expect to get the ire of some on the left, but very few actually do that to me. Heck, I even get the ire of some on the far right that sometimes think I'm not conservative enough

What I try to maintain is that we are all American citizens and the rights we have as citizens should equally apply to all. Freedom of speech, expression, religion, RTKBA, property, etc. should apply equally to us all. AND everyone should use good judgment in not using their freedom to impose their will on another citizen, such as shouting down those with whom you don't believe.

Anyway, thank you for weighing in with your perspective, it is nice to see.

Exactly. I can disapprove of a persons actions without hating the person. Just because I dislike Opera doesn't mean I hate "The Three Tenors". Something that offends my sensibilities doesn't equate to violence against me. Disagreements between people are ok, its what you do with them going forward that really matters. For instance back in Colorado I had a buddy who was a straight up Socialist, being more of a Conservative Libertarian myself we HEAVILY disagreed on politics so whenever we went out shooting or had a drink at the bar we agreed to avoid the topic all together. Out of respect for each others right to believe what they wish we found a way to coexist and still be friends. A little respect goes a long way and just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Me not making off color jokes around someone I know will be bothered by them doesn't equate to me being repressed or silenced, its just respectful. Essential components of Liberty are responsibility and respect.
To me these are not very difficult concepts. But to many I have met on the left and in the GLBT community what you have said and what I have said ranks somewhere between "Mein Kampf" and "The Turner Diaries" in hatefulness.

But it seems that the up and coming attitude is that you either embrace and celebrate them or you are automatically a Nazi, no room for discussion. What these people fail to understand is that kind of behavior will do one of two things 1: Drive moderates and conservatives further right and 2: push people so far that they become openly hostile.

As for the bathroom thing when it comes to government or schools I like the idea of having Unisex bathrooms as well as the old style ones, Trans folks can use the Unisex one. I think private business's should be given the final say at what goes on at their place as far as bathrooms but If I had a business you can bet it would be a couple of single person bathrooms.

I actually think a lot of the people trying to cram GLBT stuff down other peoples throats via shaming, putting pressure on their employers or straight up violence to be no better than the actual brown shirts . Ideologues of any stripe can be dangerous.

Shouting someone down or trying to hurt them in any way because they have an objection to something about you is just ridiculous. Personally I'd like to know that I'm not supporting the business of someone who doesn't like something important to me (its the only good thing about those No Guns Allowed signs). But you can only really find these things out if you encourage honesty and respect amongst people.


Anyways thanks for speaking freely, I agree with you whole heartedly

 

[madmax]

Milo for the win!

 

[Flopsweat]

Milo for the win!

He should be our diplomat to Iran.

 

[SparksFly]

So... My only issue is the color they picked.

Lots of folks are getting their girls into the sport and guess what color a lot of them want the gun to be....pink.

I thought their color was a rainbow flag.

IMO Rainbow Guns gives a much more discriptive image as to who they are then Pink Guns.


It stated that a large part of the LGBT community is against the Pink Guns organization but did not go on the give any reason why - leading the reader to assume they are against a pro gun organization when that may be far from true...

I think there should be a little more to the story but either way more pro gun people are better.

This work?

 

[Flopsweat]

This work?View attachment 343108

You might get more sparks flying than you counted on.