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I don't want to be on a LIST

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Charger, May 4, 2013.

  1. Charger

    Charger Oregun City Area Member

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    I just became an NRA instructor it is interesting to see how some people think.
    When you can give people the facts about what o is really trying to do they have join the NRA and OFF.
    It is really great to help people see the light out side what the media is feeding them.
    A couple of people WILL NOT join the NRA, OFF or even sign up for emails because they don't want to be on a list.
    I is amazing how scared they are of the government.
    Has anyone found a way to get through to someone with this kind of mind set or am I just wasting my time.
     
  2. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Portland Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Put a tinfoil hat on their head and call it a day. You will find that some.....most are just a few rounds short of Hi cap assault clip.
     
  3. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    I usually let them know if the government wants to know anything about you, they will know it. They can read match books from space, you are not hiding if you are in their cross hairs.

    I am usually amazed at how these people seem to think the government gives even one C R AP about them. I dont know if it is ego to think the government is going to care about john smith and what he is doing. Most businesses keep records of what you are doing. That information in some ways is more valuable then the items you actually buy. If you are doing something that would get you on a list, you are already on one.
     
  4. Don H

    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Tell them they are already on a list if they purchased a firearm. This isn't tin-foil hat stuff, it's just stupid-stuff.
     
  5. PDXoriginal

    PDXoriginal PNW Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if any of those people were crazy sovereign citizens.
     
  6. Zepoll

    Zepoll Keizer Active Member

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    All of what he said... But more...

    Have you ever googled anything firearms related? Ever researched the Perfect Concealed Carry gun? Ever bought a sling off amazon? Ever read NorthWestFireArms?

    There was an interesting article about Target and their ability to determine pregnancy in women. They can even tell you how far along in your pregnancy you are, and when your baby is due.

    And recently The Truth About Guns did an article about how, very soon, a national gun registry won't even be needed due to the data mining abilities.

    Now throw in Visa, Verizon, and any other mega corp that you use... add a dash of Patriot Act along with a search algorithm and they can compile any list they want.

    And lastly... NYTimes.. How Companies learn your secrets

     
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  7. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    There has been so much data collection going on that everything there is to know about you is already recorded. So far, the only thing protecting you is that these databases have not been connected, and the shear volume of data has been to large to be meaningfully analyzed. Note the past tense in my last sentence. Like Salted Weapon pointed out, you are already on the list. Stand up and be counted or lay down in chains. Your decision - choose wisely.
     
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  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Skynet
     
  9. JAFO

    JAFO OR, USA Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Why be concerned with trying to make someone think your way? Are you sure you are the one that is right and they are the one that is wrong? There are a lot of posts about people boycotting Comcast because their advertising branch decided to not allow firearms related advertising or people not shopping at retailers who raised firearms and accessory prices during the increased demand, etc. Are they wrong? I don't see anything that needs corrected because someone doesn't care to participate in a system they don't believe in. Some I don't agree with but I don't feel a need to change their minds.
     
  10. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    How long has it been since Safeway, etc. instituted their "club price cards"?
    There's a bunch of data on how we live our lives.
     
  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    You have a some sort of government record on you since birth... yes even you old farts BEFORE SSN's were automatically applied for from live birth. I'm an old fart becasue I never bothered to apply for my SSN until I was 15 or so. There is vital statistics info on everyone post victorian-age... period.

    Its not ALWAYS a bad thing to be recorded somewhere becasue it can save your arse in certain circumstances... its the misuse of said vital statistics that needs to be wrangled under control and kept in a "3-lock box" with STRICT CONSTITUTIONAL PROTOCOLS for its use.
     
  12. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Next time tell those people that the NSA isn't there to bake cookies!
     
  13. watchman

    watchman SW Portland Active Member

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    When applying for their Club Card, I told them my name was Abraham Lincoln.
    Always got a kick out of the cashier saying "thanks for shopping Safeway, Mr. Lincoln."
     
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    1Asterisk Eugene, OR Member

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    Really? The 10 yr (?) hunt for Osama Bin Laden comes to mind........
     
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    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    If youreally want to find out how much is known about you, just Google your name!
     
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    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I always use "Skip Towne" or "Ben Dover" especially when I'm waiting in line and they are going to call your name over an intercom.
     
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    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You're wasting your time.
    These are the same boneheads who don't vote and then scream from the barstools that NRA, SAF, CCRKBA and the rest of us "didn't do anything to stop...." whatever.
     
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    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget they whine about the NRA sending them junk mail
     
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    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Nice to meet you Mr. Lincoln. My name is Jesus Quintana.
     
  20. Charger

    Charger Oregun City Area Member

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    Thanks for the input.
    I never though about how Google, stores, banks, credit cards and debit cards all can build a profile on you.
    So if the government wants to find out what you do, I'm sure they can.
    What surprised me is the people I am talking about are not the tin foil hat kind of people.
    I have some good points to have them think about.
    I will try it and see if I can get them see the light.
    Thanks Charger