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It probably is well under 1% of the populace. I have a generous view of what qualifies as a privately made firearm. Pretty much any firearm made with a post 1968 unserialized receiver would be considered a privately made firearm in my book. Even with that generous view, I still bet it's under 1% of the State's residents that have made one.Or less.
In my lifetime I have known many machinists, professional & hobby, all have been gun owners yet none have ever made guns - well except for one but he was making custom muzzleloaders.
Making a gun (in the traditional sense) would require a better than average knowledge of machining and metal working and would be a time consuming process - along with a minimum of equipment the average person does not have.
I read a lot of posts where some talk about making guns like it's some sort of kitchen table process anyone can do but that is not the case. Also I see the 3D 'printing' process' brought up many times and while I admit I only have basic knowledge of it I suspect if one had the equipment and ability to 'print' parts, say plastic frames/receivers there are still a lot of parts that will need to be machined - and that won't take place on a 3D printer.
There are and will continue to be purists that produce things from their base forms, but you're right that most choose to take advantage of modern technologies, processes and free market components. Like in almost any area it still requires a level of knowledge, expertise and eperience to deliver a formed and functionl end product. I don't disparage those that employ those technologies available to them.Or less.
In my lifetime I have known many machinists, professional & hobby, all have been gun owners yet none have ever made guns - well except for one but he was making custom muzzleloaders.
Making a gun (in the traditional sense) would require a better than average knowledge of machining and metal working and would be a time consuming process - along with a minimum of equipment the average person does not have.
I read a lot of posts where some talk about making guns like it's some sort of kitchen table process anyone can do but that is not the case. Also I see the 3D 'printing' process' brought up many times and while I admit I only have basic knowledge of it I suspect if one had the equipment and ability to 'print' parts, say plastic frames/receivers there are still a lot of parts that will need to be machined - and that won't take place on a 3D printer.
I do a lot of hobby & part time welding & metal fabrication and some light machine work - and probably have more equipment than most average 'tinkerers' - but I am still a LONG way from having the ability to effectively 'make' a gun.
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I mean... it's just a easy to say to the person that claims they make clothing.... "Oh really? Where's your loom?"
I build cars. "Oh really? Where's your foundry?"
I'm a computer programmer. "Oh really? 01001101 01100001 01100100 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101100 01101111 01101111 01101011 00100001"
"Making" firearms covers such a broad range of activities. Today all of the parts except the receiver are not regulated. It is possible to make ONLY the receiver and then buy the rest and you have a PMF. The amount of machining involved in a lower AR15 for example isn't too advanced. OTOH, if you're making your own barrel and chamber is a WHOLE different game.Or less.
In my lifetime I have known many machinists, professional & hobby, all have been gun owners yet none have ever made guns - well except for one but he was making custom muzzleloaders.
Making a gun (in the traditional sense) would require a better than average knowledge of machining and metal working and would be a time consuming process - along with a minimum of equipment the average person does not have.
I read a lot of posts where some talk about making guns like it's some sort of kitchen table process anyone can do but that is not the case. Also I see the 3D 'printing' process' brought up many times and while I admit I only have basic knowledge of it I suspect if one had the equipment and ability to 'print' parts, say plastic frames/receivers there are still a lot of parts that will need to be machined - and that won't take place on a 3D printer.
I do a lot of hobby & part time welding & metal fabrication and some light machine work - and probably have more equipment than most average 'tinkerers' - but I am still a LONG way from having the ability to effectively 'make' a gun.
SORTA different game."Making" firearms covers such a broad range of activities. Today all of the parts except the receiver are not regulated. It is possible to make ONLY the receiver and then buy the rest and you have a PMF. The amount of machining involved in a lower AR15 for example isn't too advanced. OTOH, if you're making your own barrel and chamber is a WHOLE different game.
How can they restrict something they can't prove exists?Quite a few States already have restrictions on privately made firearms.
Ghost Guns Regulated
States can regulate ghost gun parts, ensuring that these DIY, homeade guns cannot be sold without serial numbers and a background check.everytownresearch.org
So I'm curious, when they say "serial numbers for component parts" what is covered? Subassemblies? Barrels? Every single part? Are roll pins included?Quite a few States already have restrictions on privately made firearms.
Ghost Guns Regulated
States can regulate ghost gun parts, ensuring that these DIY, homeade guns cannot be sold without serial numbers and a background check.everytownresearch.org
Yep. To avoid a takings judgement, they are grandfathering what you possess. As long as the firearm model in question existed in the revision you posses was available before 2019/2020... or whatever year... how do they prove when you got it? Visit a Nampa gun shop and buy lower components kits and uppers all day long, walking for cash.How can they restrict something they can't prove exists?
I did not see any grandfathering clause in House Bill 2005, except allowance for 1968 and earlier firearms? Here is link to text of bill.So I'm curious, when they say "serial numbers for component parts" what is covered? Subassemblies? Barrels? Every single part? Are roll pins included?
Yep. To avoid a takings judgement, they are grandfathering what you possess. As long as the firearm model in question existed in the revision you posses was available before 2019/2020... or whatever year... how do they prove when you got it? Visit a Nampa gun shop and buy lower components kits and uppers all day long, walking for cash.
It is a short bill. I see nothing that requires marking of any other firearm component. Nor do I see anything that prohibits the importation, manufacturing, possessing or selling of any other components than the receiver.I did not see any grandfathering clause in House Bill 2005, except allowance for 1968 and earlier firearms? Here is link to text of bill.
Did you see a grandfather clause in the bill?It is a short bill. I see nothing that requires marking of any other firearm component. Nor do I see anything that prohibits the importation, manufacturing, possessing or selling of any other components than the receiver.
With .50 BMG growing on treesWhere would we be if JMB had to deal with this BS, said F' it and became an farmer?