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How should you secure your firearms in an apartment?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by verbatim, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. verbatim

    verbatim Salem New Member

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    I'm just looking for ways to secure firearms in my apartment without a safe. I know they make small lockbox type safes but whats to stop someone from just stealing that and taking a cutting torch to it later.

    I live in an apartment and would feel a lot better with at least a handgun, but then I'd worry about someone stealing it and committing a crime with my serial #. I don't really plan to have an arsenal here, maybe just 1 handgun and 1 rifle.
     
  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    A lot of the smaller safes can be bolted to other things. So if you have any secure shelves that you can bolt it to, and hopefully that would be enough deterrent to theft. Although not perfect, it is probably as secure as you are going to get without any permanent modifcations to your apartment. Also you can get a locking gun cabinet or locker, they are not as sturdy as a safe, but usually to big to carry away.
     
  3. verbatim

    verbatim Salem New Member

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    Thanks for the quick answer I'll look into that.
     
  4. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Also, the safes can usually be bolted from the inside, so if you use a bolt with a round head, then they pretty much cannot take the safe, unless they get it open, or cut whatever it is bolted to off and take it all.
     
  5. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    I lot of it really depends on the size and quantity of firearms you are wanting to secure. A single handgun is relatively easy... several rifles, not so much.
     
  6. Otis

    Otis Vancouver, WA Member

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    Anything is better than nothing. The little safes are probably your best option. You can even get ones that have a proximity alarm on them that will sound off when it is moved.
     
  7. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Your best protection from theft is not telling/showing anybody you don't trust (i.e., nobody) your guns.

    So many burglaries happen because so-called "friends" got an eyeful of the goodies and came back later.

    Show US your pieces, and keep the casual acquaintances clueless.
     
  8. bmw2

    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    When I had an apartment, I bought a 8 gun security "cabinet" for $100 and bolted it to 200 pounds of flat weight plates. Not ideal but I figured it would make it a lot harder to get out of the apartment. Probably weighed about 300 pound with the guns in it. I had it in the closet next to the hot water heater and ran a cable and pad lock around the pipes also.
     
  9. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    THAT is a great idea!! :thumbup:
     
  10. Quick Action Jackson

    Quick Action Jackson Portlandistan Member

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    have you considered hiding it in a air vent or something?
     
  11. 240kph

    240kph Grants Pass, OR Member

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    That's a good idea. Do mean plates like on free weights (45lb,35lb,etc..) or concrete blocks or something?

    -Steve
     
  12. bmw2

    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    Yeah they were weight lifting plates. Technically it was 180 pounds, I used four 45 pound plates. I got them off craigslist really cheap. The olympic style plates are recessed in the center and the rim around the edge gave me enough room to run a couple of bolts through them and they still laid flat.
     
  13. 240kph

    240kph Grants Pass, OR Member

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    Yet another use for free weights. People spend hundreds of dollars on fancy home gym setups when all you really need to stay fit is a bench, some plates, and a pair of running shoes. I lift to bulk up (6'5" 285lb) so I can tackle the fool who breaks in and tries to steal my guns. Or you can do the safe thing...

    -Steve
     
  14. jrc99

    jrc99 Fairview, OR Member

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    Can it store rifles?
     
  15. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    Before the safe, it was trigger locks on everything, and, a security cable between the long-arms.

    Bob
     
  16. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I live in an apt as well. I bought a rifle safe for $89, I have not bolted it down. But if I was going to be here longer I would just put some lag bolts through the back into a stud. It will only make a small maybe 1/2in hole that's easy to patch and most likely wont even need to paint. I would however bolt it in the back and on one of the sides. So you would need to put it in a corner. Use a closet or spare room.
     
  17. bmw2

    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    Yeah it holds rifles, it's an 8 gun "safe" but that's pretty optimistic 6 is more realistic. I tossed the shelf that came with it in the scrap pile and made my own shelf for the top that was deeper so it holds my handguns and rifles, although it's getting pretty full and I think I'll buy another one soon. Were renting a house now and will be here for a while so I have it lag bolted to the floor and a stud behind the safe. When I get another one I'm going to do the same and also bolt them together.
     
  18. jrc99

    jrc99 Fairview, OR Member

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    Cool and where did you find it at?
     
  19. bmw2

    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    Most places that have guns carry them, Joe's, Cabelas or Sportsman's Warehouse. It's just a standard 8 gun cabinet. I got mine at Cabelas. Runs about $100 dollars.
     
  20. KomradRazvan

    KomradRazvan Portland and Salem Oregon New Member

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