Oregon How many firearms are out there?

[madladchad]

I always wonder how they get these numbers. Knowing constitutionally they can't have a federal registry of firearms. Do they go off of manufacturers numbers at the end of the year? What do they go off of? Serious question no sarcasm.

you know they know what we know, they just don't want us to know that they know what we know.

They go off of manufacturing and import numbers. Thus, a decent chunk of WWII era guns are counted in the 434 mil figure.

 

[Gunbuggy]

oh dude i still got the obama sign in my yard. i gotchu bro.

I'm gonna one up you and say I have a BLM sign on my front yard.

jk. I don't.. my neighbors would run me out of the hood

hahaha

 

[pdx1]

Ahhh, the BLM yard sign, the new "lambs blood over the door"

 

[SPSharpshooter]

Here's a little refresh, in case you forgot.

 

[Washingtondave]

Ok, good research, but incomplete. How many of those guns are no longer in the US because they were sold by the gov to gangs in Mexico?

 

[albin25]

Depressing I know, but think about it....

Y'realize they really don't need to actually confiscate a BILLION guns...
.... they just gotta confiscate a few thousand, and arrest/abuse the right owners in a very public way. Destroy the right people using a willing Media/Tech-monopoly and tens of millions of guns will be quickly turned in by a fearful public under social/familial pressure.

ANY reason from lapsed car insurance to removing mattress tags will get your property searched, and heaven help the first examples made of someone caught hiding their guns. Will your wife let you "John Wick" your guns in the basement floor if she's afraid the kids will be taken and all the family assets will be seized?

Gun "turn-in-4-cash programs" will bring in even more, and will also be used to "contact trace" (it's already been practiced thanks to "covid" to see if those (or their friends) turning them in are actually turning them ALL in.

The rest will be buried/hidden to await possibly "better" days because the risks in using them (even in remote areas) will be considered too risky by all but a dwindling few and ammo will be out of reach for most people anyways. Perhaps some will be rendered certified-inoperative to keep a family heirloom, but the expense won't be worth it for most folks.

 

[JuglansRegia]

And how many do the US armed forces and federal agencies possess?

 

[Mark W.]

1 billion guns is way to much in transferable assets to remove from the public. Imagine at an average mart value of just $300.00 each thats a lot of money to suck out of the publics pocket.

 

[Mygrainman]

Ahhh, the BLM yard sign, the new "lambs blood over the door"

sleeping death... the new creeping death.

 

[Member 52301]

The problem is they can simply make it very hard for you to shoot your guns.
They can shut down National Forests to shooting
They can make shooting only "legal" at state run or certified ranges and that gun you shoot there better be on the registry.

THIS is true. It could happen.

Cate

 

[arakboss]

To answer your title question. Not enough

 

[AMT]

Depressing I know, but think about it....

Y'realize they really don't need to actually confiscate a BILLION guns...
.... they just gotta confiscate a few thousand, and arrest/abuse the right owners in a very public way. Destroy the right people using a willing Media/Tech-monopoly and tens of millions of guns will be quickly turned in by a fearful public under social/familial pressure.

ANY reason from lapsed car insurance to removing mattress tags will get your property searched, and heaven help the first examples made of someone caught hiding their guns. Will your wife let you "John Wick" your guns in the basement floor if she's afraid the kids will be taken and all the family assets will be seized?

Gun "turn-in-4-cash programs" will bring in even more, and will also be used to "contact trace" (it's already been practiced thanks to "covid" to see if those (or their friends) turning them in are actually turning them ALL in.

The rest will be buried/hidden to await possibly "better" days because the risks in using them (even in remote areas) will be considered too risky by all but a dwindling few and ammo will be out of reach for most people anyways. Perhaps some will be rendered certified-inoperative to keep a family heirloom, but the expense won't be worth it for most folks.

I was thinking this exact same thing!

Also remembering the post a couple weeks ago about the guy in Wisconsin(?) that was behind on his child support so he received a lifetime ban of owning firearms? Because "if he's breaking this law, he can't be trusted with anything else" (paraphrasing)

You receive a parking ticket? You can't follow the law = permanent ban for owning firearms.

Speeding ticket? You can't follow the law = permanent ban for owning firearms.

Name it. They don't have to to go after them all at once. "They" have systematically been screwing over the American people for many MANY years. It has only recently come to a boiling point. Now that they have the President, House and Senate, they WILL start to impose laws and sanctions on individual States to comply with their agenda.

I see that slowly but surely they will eventually end up with all of them. Every single one! It may not be in our lifetime. I would think they will go after our children. Then the grandchildren won't have much hope. Then the great-grandchildren are the ones that will be handing them all in.

If something drastic doesn't change, America will be totally socialist in ~30 years.

Something needs to change, and change in a big way.

Think of a pendulum. It is just reaching the top of the swing. Still a long ways to go. That pendulum needs to be stopped/reset and start to swing the other way if we (AMERICA) ever want any semblance of the freedom that we have enjoyed, and the generations BEFORE us.

Sorry for the rant. This is has been really bothering me lately. My kids/grand-kids and the next generations are so screwed if they don't wake up now!

 

[Mark W.]

I always wonder how they get these numbers. Knowing constitutionally they can't have a federal registry of firearms. Do they go off of manufacturers numbers at the end of the year? What do they go off of? Serious question no sarcasm.

you know they know what we know, they just don't want us to know that they know what we know.

DID you read the OP? the numbers have nothing to do with the government

434 Million Firearms Manufactured for Private Ownership over Past 25 Years

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) indicates 434 million firearms were manufactured for private ownership over the last 25 years alone.

They are going by the number of firearms MANUFACTURED

 

[223to45]

They go off of manufacturing and import numbers. Thus, a decent chunk of WWII era guns are counted in the 434 mil figure.

How do you figure?? 25 years ago is 1996, WWII was roughly 75 years ago.

 

[223to45]

Rounding these up may be a Herculean task .....

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434 Million Firearms Manufactured for Private Ownership over Past 25 Years



There are approximately 71.2 million pistol magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds, and 79.2 million rifle magazines capable of holding 30 or more rounds in circulation.

They also estimate there are 20 million firearms in private possession which Democrats label "assault weapons."

Something doesnt sem right with those numbers. That is only 4 mags per rifle.

 

[titsonritz]

Something doesnt sem right with those numbers. That is only 4 mags per rifle.

Plenty of rifles out there that do not take detachable mags.

 

[223to45]

Plenty of rifles out there that do not take detachable mags.

Right , but those numbers dont have anything to do with those rifles.
20mil MSR's, 80Mil mags at 30rd or more

 

[madladchad]

How do you figure?? 25 years ago is 1996, WWII was roughly 75 years ago.

A lot of companies are actively involved in the importation of surplus guns. More now than ever it seems, since even the most basic rifles are over $200. Mosins for example could be bought for under $100 in 2014ish.

Here are some reasonably serious anecdotes:

Chi-com sks w/bayonet

Norinco sks with bayonet. Numbers matching. Not the prettiest but a well functioning communist rifle. This was the second sks I bought from classic from the same shipment. First one was a hand select which will remain in my safe. This was shipped to me in May '20 and I just put it underneath...

www.northwestfirearms.com

Mosin Nagant Rifles For Sale M91/30 M44 M39 at Classic Firearms

www.classicfirearms.com

https://palmettostatearmory.com/surplus-carcano-model-91-ts-rifle-6-5x52mm.html

While the latter two examples don't explicitly mention when they were imported, I find it unlikely that someone would import crates of rifles to the US and sit on them for almost three decades.

 

[andreys21]

 

[Member 5605]

oh dude i still got the obama sign in my yard. i gotchu bro.

Rookies, I still have: Clinton, Gore, Obama (x2), Clinton AND Biden stickers on the back of my car.
I'm also wearing a blue shirt.

Spoiler

Just threw up a little in my mouth typing that