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Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Drat, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Drat

    Drat earth Member

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    Hi there! this is my first post.

    I been getting supplies, med kits and ammo and stuff ready for a little bit after not thinking much about it for many years cause i got all wrapped up in motorcycling. now that i see things getting weirder i am getting my family ready for natural disaster or other things we don't expect.

    This site has been really informative and i am glad a friend turned me on to it.

    i have thought about most common things to prepare for and i think i have a pretty good handle on being self sufficient for about a month if something should happen.
    (money really keeps me from doing more at this point.)

    then i come across this.. and i am not joking , i wonder.. what can we do, or should we do to prepare for the unthinkable?

    see the link below.

    http://grasptheuniverse.com/ufo-2/ca...-paul-hellyer/
     
  2. The Cheese

    The Cheese somewhere special Member

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    tin foil. About the only thing you can do.
     
  3. unionguy

    unionguy Portland Active Member

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    Always remember, no matter how much you prepare you may still encounter the "bend over and smooch your behind goodbye" scenario. Prepare for the most likely scenarios first is my credo.
     
  4. Drat

    Drat earth Member

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    i hear ya. and i expect a little teasing about it. maybe this is the wrong place to post this.... but seriously. being prepared for zombie Apocalypse is ok but not aliens? i mean.. where do you draw the line?

    i was kinda hoping for more open minded thoughtful information. like short wave radio? or other communication devices?

    thats the response i was looking for!

    so can you rate them in order?

    i think we are much less likely to experience black helicopters in our time than say.... zombies. i mean, disease is right up there as a population killer, either natural or man made....

    i would say natural disaster first,
     
  5. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    "i would say natural disaster first,"


    Yep like tornados, and to prepare for that you need really good walking shoes on your way to see the wizard of oz :bluelaugh::bluelaugh: Take a few friends with you :bluelaugh::bluelaugh:

    Some things are "one size fits all" when it comes to SHTF. The most important thing is a plan that fits you personally. You can't get all packed up without a place to go.

    jj
     
  6. Brutis

    Brutis Salem,Oregon New Member

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    I think you are on the right track, although-- Alien Attack--is highly unlikely just the fact you are paying attention puts you at better odds than the gen population. having a food supply for a month is a must for any natural disaster.

    Brutis
     
  7. EZLivin

    EZLivin SW of PDX Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree.

    But, when you are totally prepared for every likely scenario, start listening to Coast to Coast AM every night. You will get a whole s***load of new disasters that you haven't even thought of! Yes, that is right... You can choose between Ed Dames' "kill shot," or Steven Quayle's "giants," or any number of alien invasion scenarios, or Planet X, or... :D

    (Personally I'd go with the "kill shot" over "giants," but I have a couple of boxes of 12ga copper slugs on hand in case Quayle wins out. :paranoid:)
     
  8. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum Drat.

    Although I was not able to open your link, it seemed to be a website discussing life from other planets...don't listen to those non-believers. If what you had posted was in referrence to ETs...they're here, get over it, I say.

    Unionguy is right though, prepare. There's a storm coming.

    Will
     
  9. Drat

    Drat earth Member

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    its a video of former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer confirming alien visitation and the USA denying it for purposes undisclosed. there is a Great quote from President Clinton re stated in it... that there is a government inside the government and that the president doesn't control it (referring to why isn't the truth about this out).


    hopefully this link works...

    UFO Disclosure by Former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer
     
  10. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, that link worked.

    Although he talks about other world visitation, his message is clear. We should be demanding transparency not only on the subject of ETs but for an accountability of the US citizens taxes that have been paid out in, as he said, " thousands of billions of dollars", to where?

    Regardless of your political affiliation, we should all be outraged at the unaccounted spending.

    Hmmm...maybe the Egyptian people could give us a crash course on holding those in power accountable.

    Stay safe,

    Will
     
  11. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Well spoken....

    Comrade:bluelaugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh:

    jj
     
  12. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe it Jim, but I think I'm getting used to you...Comrade!:bluelaugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh:

    Will
     
  13. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    they say our sun will explode in 10,000 years what do you think we as citizens should do about it
     
  14. MikeE

    MikeE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Here are seven very cool video clips from different thinkers on peak oil/climate change/and collapse. I especially liked Dimitry Orlov who wrote ReInventing Collapse, because he gets into what to prepare for - Russian style. Also James Kunstler who wrote the Long Emergency. And Noam Chomsky's no slouch either:

    YouTube - James Howard Kunstler: Peak Oil and Our Financial Decline
     
  15. Drat

    Drat earth Member

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    EDIT.. whoops.. this reply was to Eldbillbo.....

    yup, that might be something to look into as well. Thanks for the heads up. In doing a little research and following the rabbit down the hole i found this..

    http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/mp3/kpfk_110125_150030goharrison.MP3

    this is from a LA radio station i believe. go to 35:45 for a quick interview, very interesting. Especially if you look at how this relates the documentary "Collapse" and energy in general.


    Thanks Mike.
     
  16. nubus

    nubus Guest

    As the others have said, prepare for the simple scenarios first.
    When you say you could last a month, is that with or without power in sub-freezing weather?
    Is that with or without your home for basic shelter and storage of your stuffs or is that on foot.
    Lots of people focus on getting armed at great expense and don't even have extra band-aids in the house.
    The rabbit hole is as deep as you want it to be, and there are varying degrees of "sheeple" out there.
    Thinking about it and being aware that collapse really could occur puts you ahead of the curve.
    But absolutely focus on the basics first, lot's of info out there, I'll send you a copy of this...LINK
    It's not the "end all, be all" but it's a good start that isn't overwhelming and easy to read.
     
  17. Thebastidge

    Thebastidge 10411 NE Fourth Plain Blvd Vancouver WA 98662 Well-Known Member

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    I just watched the "Collapse" video the other day. Got about 3 or 4 minutes into and stopped. My BS detector going off so loudly made it impossible to listen to the point any more. Here's what I wrote about it over on the ShootersNW forum:

    Q Clearance is DoE. He claims he got one without knowing about it becasue his dad was a Military Aviator: DoD. That alone is BS. Q clearance is not a clearance above Top Secret. Anybody who says this phrase is misquoting something they heard. TS is the highest clearance. Period. Sensitive Compartmentalized Information is not "classified higher than TS". It is simply restricted on a specific need to know. Q clearance is not SCI. SCI is based upon protecting the source, not the information itself. So it is usually sigint, comint, humint, and it is has the SCI caveat to prevent the combination of EEFI. Sometimes this means that information is not acted upon or disseminated to the people who could use it, because they protect the source in order to further exploit said source, and any action taken on that information would expose the source.

    Information classification is based on the level of harm to national security, thus you can have secret sci or top secret sci. When does Dept of Energy need to keep the source of their classified information protected from otherwise cleared people?

    You don't get cleared "just in case" without knowing about it. Family members don't get clearances just because the dad has access. You don't take classified information home in a briefcase where your kid might accidentally see it, strictly verboten. If a family member does get a clearance, they get briefed on their responsibility to safeguard classified information.

    The local police agency does not just "pull up" your clearance information- they don't have access to that system, especially back before computers were common, but even now, I have to write to the Defense Security Service, in hardcopy, in a freedom of information act request simply to get the status of my own clearance, if I am not currently employed some place (defense contractor or military unit) with a facility security office with access to JPAS. Even most military units cannot pull your clearance status up. It has to be someone with access to the security clearance system. It's not public information. It's kept private because we don't want random people knowing who to target for national security information, and we don't want people inserting erroneous info into the security clearance records, etc.


    Strong Men Also Cry. Strong men also cry...

    Mike Ruppert Makes Company President's Sexual Harassment Policy

    And while I don't like the conspiratorial "our super secret method of kung fu has never been reproduced" tone of this presentation, I find it a bit more credible from a financial analyst firm:

    http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pr...VD/PPSIM297/PR
     
  18. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    40 watt range?
     
  19. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Living within 100 miles of four major volcanoes, and in the Cascadia subduction zone(Cascadia Megathrust Earthquakes), I think I have enough to worry about without borrowing trouble. Really, preparing for a 9+ earthquake and what that would do to society here about is, in essence, the same as preparing for anything else. Long term "life as we know it" would cease to exist anyway, so why stress about things I can't even imagine. If ET gets here and raises a ruckus, I'll do the same thing as I would for a severe earthquake. Hunker down, feed me and mine, and stay alive.
     
  20. MA Duce

    MA Duce Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Actually our sun..being a G3 on the Main sequence, is too small to nova. It will not explode. After a few more MILLION years, it will slowly expand as the mass burns away and the gravitational field cannot contain the heat from the fusion reactions. Once it reaches the Red Giant stage it will stabilize for a few million years, then as the fuel decreases it will collapse into a yellow dwarf.