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Let's face reality, most gun violence is perpetrated by criminals. The anti-gun crowd is not interested in solving this violence. They simply want our guns and see gun violence as a tool to take them. There must be some people in the middle who are sincerely interested in reducing gun violence while allowing law abiding citizens to continue enjoying their firearms freedoms. We may be able to engage with these people to reduce gun violence, which could help reduce the pressure to take away our freedoms.

Share your ideas on how society can reduce gun violence without additional restrictions of our firearm freedoms?

Bonus points if the ideas don't cost boatloads of money and don't restrict our other freedoms.
 
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The answer to stop crime is dead simple, lock up or kill criminals. Voters have decided they no longer want this though. So crime flourishes. Of course the law makers who want to take guns could care less about crime, it does not effect them. They live where it does not touch them. Law makers want control. Hard to control people who are armed. So let crime get out of control and a lot of people will give up guns. Working great so far. Will be interesting to see how much further it goes until people wake up. If they ever do.
 
The answer to stop crime is dead simple, lock up or kill criminals. Voters have decided they no longer want this though. So crime flourishes. Of course the law makers who want to take guns could care less about crime, it does not effect them. They live where it does not touch them. Law makers want control. Hard to control people who are armed. So let crime get out of control and a lot of people will give up guns. Working great so far. Will be interesting to see how much further it goes until people wake up. If they ever do.
I think they are starting to wake up in California.
 
The answer to stop crime is dead simple, lock up or kill criminals. Voters have decided they no longer want this though. So crime flourishes. Of course the law makers who want to take guns could care less about crime, it does not effect them. They live where it does not touch them. Law makers want control. Hard to control people who are armed. So let crime get out of control and a lot of people will give up guns. Working great so far. Will be interesting to see how much further it goes until people wake up. If they ever do.
This, plain and simple. 80% of violent crime is committed by repeat offenders. Keep them away from society and violent crime drops 80%. Not sure of the cost of incarceration, but it is probably cheaper than the costs of that 80%.
Capital punishment for murder and rape. Overcrowded?? Juice a few until there's room.
 
This, plain and simple. 80% of violent crime is committed by repeat offenders. Keep them away from society and violent crime drops 80%. Not sure of the cost of incarceration, but it is probably cheaper than the costs of that 80%.
Capital punishment for murder and rape. Overcrowded?? Juice a few until there's room.
Exactly. The other elephant in the room is gang violence. It comprises something like 50% of all murders in the U.S. We know who they are and where they are - in the cities that haven't eliminated their LE gang units - but the numbers almost never decrease significantly.
 
Include wilderness survival and firearms safety training in early education, re-enact corporal punishment in schools, hold criminals accountable and enforce capital punishment, collapse the housing market, and disassemble the monetary structure of this civilization that is grossly unbalanced to benefit corporations and executives and promotes the exploitation of 99% of the human population.
 
Let's face reality, most gun violence is perpetrated by criminals. The anti-gun crowd is not interested in solving this violence. They simply want our guns and see gun violence as a tool to take them. There must be some people in the middle who are sincerely interested in reducing gun violence while allowing law abiding citizens to continue enjoying their firearms freedoms. We may be able to engage with these people to reduce gun violence, which could help reduce the pressure to take away our freedoms.

Share your ideas on how society can reduce gun violence without additional restrictions of our firearm freedoms?

Bonus points if the ideas don't cost boatloads of money and don't restrict our other freedoms.


Repeat offenders can be cured in about 30 seconds and with 50 cents.
The mess can cleaned up in an hour.
Unmarked and shallow grave costs less than a grocery trip.

While we have strived to be kinder society we have forgotten the tenet of behavior correction. Sometimes that correction requires brutal and swift punishment. Or lengthy stays away from society.
 
Exactly. The other elephant in the room is gang violence. It comprises something like 50% of all murders in the U.S. We know who they are and where they are - in the cities that haven't eliminated their LE gang units - but the numbers almost never decrease significantly.
This is the area where I see the biggest potential for reducing gun violence but it will take a major reversal of attitudes to attack it. We can lock the gang members up as they commit crimes but there is a steady stream of kids ripe to replace them. I am not sure how to interrupt that stream. We are going to need a lot more prisons to house them all and that is going to be a tough sell given current attitudes.
 
Repeat offenders can be cured in about 30 seconds and with 50 cents.
The mess can cleaned up in an hour.
Unmarked and shallow grave costs less than a grocery trip.

While we have strived to be kinder society we have forgotten the tenet of behavior correction. Sometimes that correction requires brutal and swift punishment. Or lengthy stays away from society.
50 cent solutions aren't going to sell. So unless we institute a bunch Charles Bronson style neighborhood watch groups across the country that probably won't be a viable solution.
 
This is the area where I see the biggest potential for reducing gun violence but it will take a major reversal of attitudes to attack it. We can lock the gang members up as they commit crimes but there is a steady stream of kids ripe to replace them. I am not sure how to interrupt that stream. We are going to need a lot more prisons to house them all and that is going to be a tough sell given current attitudes.
Here's part of the puzzle. If you can:

1) Finish high school.
2) Get and keep a full time job.
3) Do not have children out of wedlock and before you turn 21.

you have a 75% chance of reaching a middle class income, which is currently about $55K/yr. You have about a 2% chance of remaining in poverty.


Impressing that on kids who grow up fatherless, with "community leaders" telling them that society hates them and entertainment glorifying violence and lawlessness, well that's another story, but we can't just ignore them. If the Brookings study were the message of BLM, I feel like we'd have seen real, measurable progress by now.
 
Taking a small bite of the elephant, a focus on raising children with values and providing strong parental involvement (not helicopter, but engaged like parents used to be) will be a strong, positive step in leading kids down the right path of responsible adulthood.
 
A re-vamping of the 20,000 odd gun laws is needed....
Keep what works....toss out the rest

Enforce the laws that already exist...

Take away the stigma / fear of losing guns / Rights when seeking help for mental heatlh....

Having an elective , non-political firearm safety class offered in schools.
A class that teaches :
Basic safe firearm handling...
Basic ballistics...as well as just what bullets and shot actual do...
Basic firearm ID.
Andy
 
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1. Bring back corporal punishment.

2. Televise it.

Or just teach common sense in school again, but that's not happening.
 
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