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You could always do what we did if you have a problem with people driving through your property in atv's and cycles.
We had lots of boards around the perimeter of our orchard, plywood, 2x10's etc with lots of 3" nails sticking up all over them. Post it well and signs stating there were tire and vehicle hazards beyond this point.
Sprinkle a few leaves off the filbert trees over them and then sit back and watch the tow trucks have to come get them out. Gave us all the time in the world to go get their plate number or other ID and send them a bill for the ground and trees they tore up.
We spent weeks smoothing the ground and then had axxholes come tear the ground up.
It was an extremely effective deterrent. We just pulled them when we sprayed or flail mowed or harvested, and if we forgot one, we had foam filled tires anyway, so didn't bother the tractors.
 
I know about citizens arrest, if there was no felony involved you cannot point a gun at somebody. .citizens arrest or not

And for the record the guy was not open carrying a shotgun, he was holding it in his hand and not slung on his shoulder or a holster..

In wa that could be construed as brandishing... although that may not be the case in Michigan

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD!
They DID NOT point the gun or crossbow at him.
That was clearly stated. Read the article.
Also you obviously don't hunt much with a shotgun. Most people do not put slings on them unless they are set up as a slug gun.
 
I'm not advocating lying I'm just saying before ever saying anything to an officer you talk to a lawyer. Simply, this situation is "motorist Vs Land owner" in terms of who did what. The land owner, unlike the trespasser, has not committed a crime at this point. There are simply no other witnesses. To get out of the pending accusation all one would need to say is "I told him to get off my land and then he fumbled in his jacket. I thought he was reaching for a gun so I yelled 'FREEZE!' That is when I drew my 410's bead on him and escorted him to the edge of my property for LEO's to deal with." If "no trespassing" has been posted and posted well, I don't feel sorry for the guy.

To address later reports about LEO threatening arrest if the deletion of video did not happen: this is the real thing that irritates me and the issue that I think these 50's should be fired and brought up on charges.
 
HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD!
They DID NOT point the gun or crossbow at him.
That was clearly stated. Read the article.

sorry DAD... didn't know you are now in charge or telling me...

you were there right? so you know this for a fact?

cool... sorry my bad...
 
sorry DAD... didn't know you are now in charge or telling me...

you were there right? so you know this for a fact?

cool... sorry my bad...

You really do need an attitude adjustment. You came on like and azz and ended like one.
The article was pretty self explanatory, so you truly need to read them before commenting on them.
 
You really do need an attitude adjustment. You came on like and azz and ended like one.
The article was pretty self explanatory, so you truly need to read them before commenting on them.

wow... you need an attitude adjustment too..

you think you're the only one who can read? how many versions of the story did you go read? just the one from the "slanted" source?

so reference where I mentioned he pointed his gun or crossbow at the officer? if you meant the trespasser, then the article says the intruder claimed so, and I would be inclined to believe... otherwise as the biker, I would just get on my bike turn around and leave...

trespassing becomes a crime when you refuse to leave... like it or not, that's how the law is... at least in my state...
 
And that's part of the problem... we complain about leftist media being biased but most swallow rightist media as gospel...

Most people need to learn to filter the facts from the bias. Just because it's what you want to hear does not make it true

What if the stuff is written in ALL CAPS? That seems to be the best way to know what's true or not.
 
What a waste.............

and I assume the same for you...

your bias is evident because you envision yourself to be in the same shoes as the person in the article... you have the same problem and been there done that....

we can have a good discussion or we can call each other names... you call me an ***, and that's fine, I'll call you dumb and uneducated...

you call me something else, I call you something else...

if you wanted to debate the article and the actual story, do so, but nope, you had to act like you and only you know how it really is and I'm just ignorant because I won't accept your version of the story...

guess what, neither of us was there....

so get off your pedestal and talk to us from an equal level, but I can understand your need to feel superior on the internet, so I'll bow out of this topic and leave you be...

seriously dude, learn to respect other's views even if they differ from your own... I went to 10 years of schooling after high school and have more degrees than you probably ever will... want to start a pissing contest? I'm not dumb by any means, I can read and research facts for myself, and I present my opinion as opinion... I wasn't there...

have fun in your little world where you are king...
 
wow... you need an attitude adjustment too..

you think you're the only one who can read? how many versions of the story did you go read? just the one from the "slanted" source?

so reference where I mentioned he pointed his gun or crossbow at the officer? if you meant the trespasser, then the article says the intruder claimed so, and I would be inclined to believe... otherwise as the biker, I would just get on my bike turn around and leave...

trespassing becomes a crime when you refuse to leave... like it or not, that's how the law is... at least in my state...

At the biker. His one word. Against the Dad, the Son, and the Wife.
I do read on the issue and have sent a link that will give you as many sources as you could possibly read.
You didn't read the article before mouthing off, then you slam an organization that's sole purpose is to get LE and Military to up hold their OATH to uphold the Constitution.
You come off as a left wing nutcase. Simple deduction.
 
did anyone notice the property owner that called the le was on the ground and the guy trespassing was sitting in a chair. treating him better. just another example of the criminal having more rights than the law abiding.
 

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